I’m not sure what Yasir Mohib thought he was doing when he invited TV3’s ‘Story’ into his home.
As a new migrant, did he not understand how NZers would culturally see his lifestyle?
Was he like so many other men damaged by toxic masculinity, arrogant and blind to his own misuse of power?
Or is he a self deluded fool who beat his wife with a hammer for not holding her hand?
I have no idea, but the backlash by so many NZers angered by what they saw in his smug defence of having two wives and how happy his family was (despite him bashing one of them with a hammer) was a new threshold.
I think based on this story, many NZers turned their backs on Muslims last week.
The public friction of bumping into women shrouded from head to toe is jarring enough for most NZers. A migrant Muslim living here with two wives after being convicted of assaulting one of those wives with a hammer couldn’t be better scripted by Donald Trump’s speech writer.
When you lose Mr Diversity Raybon Kan – you know something has snapped within liberal minded NZ.
And it’s hard to counter the narrative that Muslim’s are culturally incompatible with western values.
But let’s consider a couple of things.
First of all, let’s acknowledge the tsunami of hypocrisy we are causing by attacking Yasir Mohib on the domestic abuse issue.
Our country is rotting to the core because of domestic violence. Abuse stats are through the roof, one percent of sexual assault cases lead to a conviction and rape crisis centres still have to beg for funding.
Let’s not criticise Mohib’s domestic violence without acknowledging our own domestic violence crisis.
Secondly, do I believe that when Mohammed was asked how people should dress, and his reply was ‘modestly’, do I think he was meaning a glorified bed sheet with slits for eyes?
No, I don’t think that’s what he was meaning, but this isn’t my religion and enforcing my cultural beliefs upon others tends to make them hold on even tighter. If this is how some Muslim’s wish to interpret their religion, it’s not up to me or anyone else to tell them otherwise. We live in a liberal democracy, I can walk down the road in a chicken suit if I wish. We don’t want to start telling women what to wear, that’s what ISIS does!
Thirdly – radical Islam is a response to Western Imperialism. We wouldn’t have Jihadist fanatics if we didn’t keep bombing their homes and propping up their dictators.If we want to stop monsters, perhaps we should stop funding those monsters then?
I have no time for medieval superstition be it Christian, Muslim, Hebrew or Jedi but allowing ourselves to believe the ‘other’ is too alien to interact with is an incredibly dangerous narrative to start investing in because the only solution to that belief is genocide and exclusion.
Yasir Mohib is a human being with the same flaws and failures of all human beings. Unfortunately ‘Story’ weren’t there to explain that, they were there to exploit the cultural misunderstandings and those watching left hating not thinking.
I see it as an immigration issue; as you point out, Martyn, we have more than enough home grown child killers and wife beaters… why the HELL are we bringing in even one more?
What kind of racist claptrap is that, Castro? Are you seriously lumping all people from the Middle East who may be Muslim as “child killers and wife beaters”?
Not at all. Read my comment again. It makes zero mention of race or creed. It is an immigration issue. Do you understand the difference?
You completely put words in my mouth. Re-read my comment. Get some (new) glasses if necessary. I said that it is an immigration issue; people of Yasir Mohib’s character, irrespective of race or creed, should most definitely NOT be allowed into New Zealand. Do you think wife beaters should be brought in?
Actually, Castro, I’m reading pretty much what Samwise did.
Are you attacking all muslims because of the actions of a few? And do you extend the same to non-muslims?
Because restricting migration of all muslims because of what a minority might do has a name to it.
When did I EVER attack Muslims? Get some reading glasses, seriously. I said this is an immigration issue. I think NZ needs to severely restrict and oversee immigration to the point that wife beaters, the likes of Yasir Mohib (IRRESPECTIVE of ethnicity or beliefs), would never make it off the tarmac, much less be granted residency or citizenship. You seem to be reading things that are not there, and putting words in my mouth. Would you prefer that NZ let in more wife beaters? (AGAIN, irrespective of their race or creed)
A Muslim has to adhere to the teachings of Mohammed:
Quran (4:34) – “Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.”
Quran (38:44) – “And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath…” (Allah telling Job to beat his wife).
Sahih Bukhari (72:715) – A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being “greener” than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
Sahih Muslim (9:3506) – Muhammad’s fathers-in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.
So you see, it’s all part of the package.
Still keen on letting them in?
Andrew, the Bible is not much better. Both were written at a time when such behaviour was acceptable. In fact, for many people (religious or not), such behaviour is still acceptable.
I can point out passages in the Bible, that, if done today would break a multitude of criminal laws.
So your focus on Islam is just more of your racism. (Would you like me to post the link where you voiced support for apartheid in South Africa?)
The Old Testament is full of instructions to carry out despicable acts. e.g. If your son is disobedient, gather your neighbours and stone him to death; If a woman wears two different fabrics at the same time, stone her to death.
‘Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.’
http://www.evilbible.com/
Afewknowthetruth, you’ve nailed it.
But we all know that Andrew is just another racist, misogynistic pig. He’ll use any opportunity to attack muslims and people of colour.
Truly a despicable man.
It’s all a bit of a worry.
How to beat your wife-LIKE A BOSS. Saudi TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1nl7PkXHwI
Cheers.
Last I was at a Christian church (I cannot even remember when it was), they were still also quoting from the Old Testament. While that old Book contains references to stoning people, I am not aware of this being done in our days within any church we have in NZ.
So are you suggesting Muslims take the Quran literally, or parts thereof, Andrew?
While some extremists do, that does not mean all Muslims do, most do not, as far as I observe it.
This is the Corporate plan to melt down the core of our ethnicity into a grand mixed race of society where we don’t have a common social interest to form unions and shared religious beliefs or any unity where we can build a base to resist the corporate plan to take control of our hearts and minds as they force the “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT” upon us all.
CLEANGREEN;
Spot on. This short video below, of what is happening in Europe, should be
seen in the context of a warning to NZ if we do not keep an eye on the numbers
coming here. I am afraid the PC crowd ‘no not what they do.’
In my opinion we only have an obligation to the area we are responsible for and
that is the Pacific Islands.
Any other immigrants should be skills based only.
Listen carefully to the words of Zarcosy,Merkel,Nick Griffen and the KBG defector
Yuri Bezmenov if you doubt the comment of Cleangreen.
And Babara Lerner Spectre,founder of PAIDEIA in Sweden, could not be any
clearer.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=53102
That video was actually an edited version of the link below with the worst violence and protests taken out,plus Bush senior’s statement of a NWO.
‘The Great Replacement’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5R1T2BxtSc
Short poem by Trump that explains his view of proper vetting.
http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-snake-warning-goes-viral/
Bush senior: “…..we have a real chance of this New World Order of which a
credible UN can use it’s peace keeping role to furfill the promise and
VISION OF THE UN’S FOUNDERS.”
Cheers.
How come he is allowed to have two wives, I wonder? Do we have plural marriage now in New Zealand? I think the man was just naive to let TV3 into his home.
He should have known that many journalists are only there to dig into stuff for a “good story” that “sells”, so they have no scruples to hang people out in public, for all to get angry and abuse them.
As for the man’s conduct, it is appalling, and he appears to believe that wives have to be submissive.
We need to look at requirements for immigrants to firmly abide with our laws, that is the laws based on human rights and democratic values, and having two submissive wives raises serious questions.
Not long ago I heard a spokeswoman from in New Zealand in some migrant groups it is still practice to arrange marriages for under-aged. Certain practices should not be allowed, and this must be made clear to members of such migrant groups when they immigrate into New Zealand.
http://shakti-international.org/shakti-nz/
http://shakti-international.org/news-events/
But of course, family violence and other problems are not unique to certain migrants, we have a serious enough issue with this in the established New Zealand population.
No, we don’t allow multiple spouses unless you come here from a country that does, then we recognize the marriage.
I don’t see why we don’t, though..
Why then not allow it to all, why discriminate against local persons, who may wish to practice polygamy?
One law for some one for others, is that right?
Cleangreen you are the only one who’s got it.
Martyn & Frank -Idiots, Brainwashed FOOLS of Political Correctness
1) Do they come here to “integrate” ? NO . They dislike our culture and their beliefs CLASH with ours.
2) Polygamy custom means they can & WILL abandon their other wives & kids to be taken care of by receiving WINZ Benefits
3) Do they want to integrate? No. In West Auckland they are already going house to house to canvass new members. I know this for a FACT
4) Wait till there are masses of them here, THEN you’ll realise what they want.
Cleangreen almost got it. You have touched on it in point 4. What they want is a One World Government, called a Global Caliphate. And the rule book they will enforce will be the quran, a medieval doctrine unchanged throughout the centuries. Talk about back to the future….
Lets be honest here. We have a bad rap sheet as a nation for domestic violence and it needs cleaning up properly. That means giving police the adequate training and resources to tackle it. That means cutting out the pussy footing around that some sectors of society still indulge in when dealing with this. That means making sure the judiciary understand that this is a serious offence and when cases come before them where the defendant is found guilty s/he gets sent down with more than a smack on the hand.
No bulling around. We need to clean ourselves up.
In an ideal world we would not need White Ribbon Day.
As for Yasir. He is not from New Zealand and probably had no idea how media work here. I don’t excuse anything he did, but strictly dealing with the media he invited into his home, he won’t know or necessarily understand that there is the thinking media and then there is the mainstream media.
What Yasir needs to know quick smart is domestic violence is NOT okay.
Just like the New Zealanders who need to clean up their act. Quick smart.
I’ve had it with hiding in the shadows.
In 2013, one of the most senior GCSB agents invited a Muslim family into an apartment across from their business, for free, to see if they liked it – while, ostensibly, he was away.
One of the Muslims in question was my partner.
The apartment was strewn with sensitive material. This bappen d so
E months before NZ announced that it needed to deploy more tools to Iraq, and some time before Kitterage announced that Muslims were a danger – yet again.
Those of us in the know know that those agencies have been using Muslims as an excuse to push for further surveillance powers. I spoke to many Muslim leaders over that time, also: an ex journalist and someone who has spent years working in Muslim countries including on issues of religious disturbances for a foundation run by former Indonesian president Gus Dur, I have. Pretty good understanding of these issues. Despite working on religious affairs issues, I speak Indonesian and read elementary Arabic, besides a number of other languages. I know and am connected to many so-called radicals, and dare say I have a much better picture that the idiots who work for the SIS in particular.
I know very well what the SIS and GCSB really focus on. That includes covering up slave fishing by the way, because I know the monitor the hell out of those vessels for drug trafficking and other issues. They know, and like Mibe, have been complicit for years.
Controlling Pacific territory, including through fishing concessions, has blinded and caused agencies and relevant goverment departments to ignore the slavery – including rape and murder – that has. Even commonplace for years. Customs wants to keep things quiet, ecause of their (hopeless) narco investigations. Mibe and the agencies are so concerned about losing fishery concessions (territory) to the Chinese that they have also chosen to look the other way. The situation has been such that the agencies have actually been tasked to monitor migrant worker activists and organizations under the legislative compulsion to protect NZ Economic interests.
I and others have been sharing this information recently with relevant MPs, who hold the relevant portfolios. But so far it’s felt like watching a limited child attempting a join-the-dots.
Perhaps that’s unfair. Lees-Galloway and others have twigged in respect of what immigration – temporary immigration – and what it is really about recently and has been voicing that. Smart journos in the media too.
But what I have learnt to have been going on in NZ over the past 4 or so years I have been really examining things is extraordinary, and cynically coordinated in the most sociopathic way.
It’s coming out, much of it. And more is due to come out. But will they, the general public listen?
Sure, from what I know English is gone and if not demoted. Guy and Woodhouse too. There’a something nasty about Paul FB that may see the end of him too. Bownlee is in trouble. And will Joyce survive that tape of him talking to Key about MediaWorks? And what about Key himself? Hmmm. Certainly if what happend on Tinakori road came out I can’t really see him surviving that. But then he seems made of foam – in more ways than one. Interesting times for sure.
Solidarity, respect and said with the spirit of the late great Helen K lot in mind.
A hard rain’s gonna fall
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