Join us to discuss why can’t we get past ‘it’s the parents fault that children are hungry’
Māori Women’s Welfare League President – Prue Kapua
Child Poverty Action Group Economist – Dr Susan St John
Social Policy Analyst for the Salvation Army – Allan Johnson
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And documentary film maker and poverty activist – Bryan Bruce
I watched this, and it was a serious and sad interview, I feel for Helen, facing the final countdown:
http://www.newshub.co.nz/tvshows/thenation/interview-helen-kelly-2016082011
Lisa Owen, I am not sure whether she was so naive as a middle class white journalist, or not, but she asked Helen, whether she thought that people no longer care (about poverty).
What Helen answered was “courteous” and diplomatic, but I think Helen knows full well, that many more people in New Zealand do indeed NO LONGER CARE.
There is no other explanation for what goes on. We have a very divided nation and it is every one fighting for themselves, like rats locked into a cage, under stress, for a laboratory experiment, and they have found, they start eating each other.
That is what NZ Inc has become under John Not The Baptist Key, the traitor at the helm, who is so casual and gets away with murder, but he only serves the interests of those in power.
He indeed sees nothing wrong with what he does, he is a true liberal, a neoliberal, who meets the property enriched urban liberals, who have also forgotten their roots, and join into the divide and rule, the blame and get away with it, society.
We have become a SICK society, as we are, and indeed, it is shocking fewer bother to care than we once had in this country.
I am still flabbergasted, does Lisa Owen think she asks a true or made up question? Does she not get it, that her own employer, the MSM, contributed to all this to happen?
Re social policy and the lies told, read this:
https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/senior-scientist-and-legal-experts-discredit-evidence-used-by-msd-and-dr-bratt-when-claiming-the-health-benefits-of-work/
‚In the expectation of recovery’, Faulkner, Centre for Welfare Reform, Scrib
https://www.scribd.com/doc/308613502/In-the-Expectation-of-Recovery
(criticism of biopsychosocial model, Aylward et al)
“Is the statement that if a person is off work for 70 days the chance of ever getting back to work is 35% justified?”
https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/read-the-journal/all-issues/2010-2019/2015/vol-128-no-1425-20-november-2015/6729
We have been LIED to, but the shit MSM take NO note of that, and carry on as usual, assisting the rotten, lying government, to get away with all this.
That is re the supposed “health benefits of work” and non existing evidence by the AFOEM, which is NO evidence, and which we have had pushed down our throats.
When does LABOUR raise this, or have they too much to hide themselves?
As you pointed out Mike National’s msm have a lot to answer for. When does any party raise this? and I can’t see how Labour can hide anything.
A Dr David Bratt, a strong pro work focused ‘Principal Health Advisor’, part of the agenda being pushed to get sick and disabled off benefits, he was hired into a newly create position with MSD while Labour were in government.
Indeed Labour started some of these controversial reforms, which the Nats took over, to push them further with unreasonable approaches and then the investment approach.
But Labour laid the ground work, encouraged by similar nonsense that was started in the UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/mar/17/epluribusunum
http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/08/28/unums-unaccepatable-influence-in-the-formulation-of-uk-dwp-atos-disability-assessment-regime-letter-to-president-of-the-faculty-of-occupational-medicine-royal-college-of-physicians/
Bratt’s approach:
http://www.gpcme.co.nz/pdf/GP%20CME/Friday/C1%201515%20Bratt-Hawker.pdf
(see pages 13, 20, 21 and 35)
01: Work and Income appoints Principal Disability Advisor and Principal Health Advisor
http://www.odi.govt.nz/resources/publications/email-update/2007/2007-09-27.html#n1
Also read this:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2007/0020/latest/dlm408545.html
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2007/0020/latest/DLM409008.html
There is much more to it, so perhaps study this also:
https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/msd-dr-bratt-present-misleading-evidence-on-worklessness-and-health-post-09-08-15.pdf
https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/senior-scientist-and-legal-experts-discredit-evidence-used-by-msd-and-dr-bratt-when-claiming-the-health-benefits-of-work/
Labour do not like to be reminded of this.
Fair enough Mike, but’s it’s most certainly not hidden. Labour gets constantly roped over the coals over certain aspects of the Clark Labour government and as Andrew Little says he is not responsible for the previous Labour government. But I thought this was begun under the Boldger/Shipley National government with it’s mother of all budgets that Labour wrongfully didn’t roll back.
I am pleasantly surprised Helen now strongly supports doctors to make decisions about a person’s health, and with that ability to work, as we have had this challenge, of some “expert” trying to influence doctors:
http://www.gpcme.co.nz/pdf/GP%20CME/Friday/C1%201515%20Bratt-Hawker.pdf
She was one signing for the CTU the disputed position statement on the “health benefits of work”, abused by vested interest parties, and propagated by the AFOEM:
https://www.racp.edu.au/docs/default-source/advocacy-library/pa-realising-the-health-benefits-of-wrok-nz-consensus-statement.pdf?sfvrsn=4
A short time ago they changed it to say “good work” is what has health benefits, a correction, but we learned this:
https://www.racp.edu.au/advocacy/division-faculty-and-chapter-priorities/faculty-of-occupational-environmental-medicine/health-benefits-of-good-work
https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/read-the-journal/all-issues/2010-2019/2015/vol-128-no-1425-20-november-2015/6729
Study all that and see the misinformation, the misinterpretation, there is no conclusive evidence on the health benefits of work. Also read this:
http://connorlegal.com.au/2016/06/the-health-benefits-of-work-part-4/
Shot to pieces, but NZ media do not get it, or continue to protect a corrupt government.
Great comments there Mike, and thank you for the link to Helen Kelly. There were 3 points that concerned me with cold hearted Liza Owens, and I hoped she wouldnt be contemptuous, bash Labour and promote National, and unfortunately the bitch couldn’t contain herself and did all 3. Owens would have hated it (her stunned exclamation gave that away), that Helen Kelly feels that Labour are gaining traction, and that National are gone next year, that there will be a change of government to a Lab/Green coalition. It was gutting to hear Helen won’t be here next year. Helen Kelly is such an amazing human being, what a great world it would be if everyone was even just a little bit like her. My heart goes out to her.
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