Why, oh why, would Stuart Nash ruin Labour’s moment in the Sun huh?
Here is the first mainstream media poll that follows internal polling that finally shows Labour/Green are contenders and what does Stuart go and do? Why he manages to allow some of Labour’s most poisonous critics to remind voters that Labour bicker internally.
Why Stuart thought sharing a stage with Phil Quin was a smart idea suggests Nash lacks the internal warning signals that normal people  have when around venomous snakes.
You don’t get to say the things that Quin has said and then pretend he can be come back into the tent for social occasions. It would be like having Cameron Slater turn up for a Green Party fundraiser.
Seeing as this is not the first time Stuart has been caught straddling the idealogical fence, I’d think he’s about to have all his privileges revoked.
Dumb, dumb, dumb behaviour.
Dumb if unintentional – Yes. Some might say consistent?
some would definitely say’consistent’
I would like to see that Slater come out from under his log and go to a Green function. Would it be a death by a thousand cutting remarks
Yep. Take a deep breath Stuart. Keep your neoliberal ravings to yourself, within the Andrew Little-led Labour party.
If it all gets too much for you to bear in the “broad” church that is Labour, leave and join the ACT Party, or stand as an independent Neoliberal Convert Party candidate.
Let’s see how popular, neoliberal policies are outside a mainstream party, then go into coalition if elected, with the most neoliberal of coalitions.
Neoliberal policies have turned New Zealand into the most unequal country in the Pacific.
Good luck with getting elected as an independent with a turd economic policy, sprinkled with glitter to New Zealanders Stuie!
ACT are a centrist party and don’t really want people like Stuart Nash. In the past, under Sir Roger Douglas and Richard Prebble might have tolerated Mr Nash’s left-wing Blairite policies, but ACT is a modern progressive centrist party now, and leaning slightly right.
So Wha Left, good luck trying to foist your left-wing neoliberal rejects onto ACT, because ACT has seen what Labour has to offer on its barrow of lies and socialism, verging on communism. ACT are better than that Wha Left.
There is nothing centrist about you or ACT. They are nothing more than an extreme far right wing group of fanatical ideologues.
And evidence of just how unpopular they and their ideology is can be evidenced by the absolutely dismal showing they consistently get in every election.
They are nothing more than a bunch of (clandestine) bigoted globalists that band together only out of the motives of self serving, self interests that includes re-appropriating the commons wealth towards their minority and , ultimately – the national sovereignty of any nation in order to accrue wealth that doesn’t belong and never has belonged to them.
Don’t come here and try to pretend they are anything else.
You fool no one.
DAVID SEE-MORE – more sea less,
I agree with Wild katipo,
ACT are a hard right party, “privatisation by stealth”.
So don’t come here with that crap, – and at least be honest!!
Don’t insult our intelligence please!!!!
ACT are “nothing to see here, move on”
That’s why they are slightly less than invisible to pollsters and can only get attention when their National Puppet-on-a-string dances up and down on occasion.
After failing to get much voter support for ACT, they have got their policies through by rebranding their policies under the National party.
Stating that Labour are “verging on communism” shows exactly why nobody should give any credence whatsoever to your equally outrageous claim that ACT are a “modern progressive centrist” party. You can’t just shift the centre line to 5m away from the goal, then call yourself centrist. You’re still wildly to the right, regardless of the words that you use to justify yourself.
he can be deselected under the new rules we’ve had enough of these neoliberals and there bankrupt ideology
Stuart Nash is a card-carrying member of Labour’s corporatist (“neo-liberal”) rump who, as we saw in the last election, would rather see Labour lose, than win by moving from the “centre-left” (actually more like centre-right) to somewhere on the actual left. Their only remaining function is to keep the party stuck in the failed policies of the “free market” era (not actually anything of the kind), and slow down its attempts at being a democratic, mass membership party of kiwi workers, including those whose families are living in vans after decades of corporate welfare under both Labour and National.
Much as it would be cathartic to see these modern day brethren of Douglas and Prebble being given the boot by Little, what I’d rather see is the party membership identifying them as the tumors they are, and surgically removes them through democratic processes like bottom-up candidate selection. If it’s true that the majority of Little’s membership and support base want its policies to move left, they have to take responsibility for declawing those inside the party who are trying to drag him to the right.
The winston peters effect.
That of the Machiavellian Confederate. But who’s the organ grinder if nash is the monkey?
Maybe same person/people who are behind Legget?
I think many people have been pleasantly surprised by Andrew Little, he has taken a middle ground and kept the Labour MP rabble under control for the most part.
He has worked an alliance with the Greens.
He has said no to TPP.
He has said Labour will build more state houses using the dividends from Housing NZ.
He has tried not to alienate homeowners while improving prospects for non homeowners.
He has asked – why do we need so many migrant chefs in NZ?
Lets hope he can keep some of the labour MP’s who proved so poisonous to the leadership and Labour brand last election under control.
Nash McCash, admired by Crusher speaks for itself.
Well said Save NZ
We are now seeing the tactical side of Little , the man seems sure and steady , and when push comes to shove , shows hes got teeth.
Not someone to be trifled with if you are on the wrong ideological side of the fence. Especially when that wrong side involves undermining the Labour party. This latest move has drawn the line and we can see clearly the difference between the weak ‘ he’s anybody’s ‘ cowering and lackeying of John Key and the backbone of Andrew Little.
If Labour had a Orivida episode one could hardly imagine a short stint in the backbenches then a full reinstatement of a minister – that minister would have been given the heave – ho and be done with it.
We are looking at a govt in waiting that combines compassion and strong direction. There are good times ahead for New Zealand.
Its just a shame that time cannot come a little sooner than 2017. The country desperately needs the change for the better.
100% well said there WK 🙂
Agreed. Excellent comment WK, well said.
Forgot to add about great progress with Andrew Little.
Worked with Winston Peters to help him get the Natz out of Northland safe seat.
Questioned whether it is appropriate that millions of development aid is going to Scenic hotels just after their owner giving a large donation to the National party.
Showed us his tax returns after the Panama papers.
Said he would get rid of our tax haven status.
True that, spot on SNZ
That Leggett is backed by ACT, approved of by Farrar, and friendly with Quin tells you all you need to know about the man.
You are the company you keep. These four are all libertarian headline seekers and Nash appears to want to play in their sandpit. He needs to make a decision about his future, fast.
Nash won the Napier electorate only because Conservative candidate Garth McVicar split the right-wing vote, thereby denying National candidate Wayne Walford a victory.
ref: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/archive/labour-crushes-rivals-in-takeover-of-napier-seat-6086976.html
If McVicar doesn’t stand again, Napier may revert to National (which it has been since 2005).
ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_(New_Zealand_electorate)
So if I were Nash, I wouldn’t be alienating Labour voters. He’ll need every single vote to preserve that seat.
Or perhaps show his true colours and stand for National and be done with it?
Yep Frank, exactly right.
Last election sitting MPs were automatically at the top of Labour’s list, and in that case Nash would be in as a list MP even if he loses the seat. Unless the list is constructed differently for 2017.
Incidentally, National ran a particularly weak candidate for Napier in 2014, after the previous MP abruptly cut short his political career, and Nash has a high profile on the local issue of amalgamation with much poorer Hastings.
Agreed Frank,
We are actually seeing first hand the NatZ return of “Dirty Politics” subtly now but going that way by placing bad blood inside Labour now as we see here.
We need to keep Napier or NatZ may take it back and return to complete the ruin of this country, so what Stuart Nash said/did is nothing compared to what may happen if we encourage getting rid of Labour held seats.
Frank, – By the way, another important issue Stuart Nash fought for alongside Amalgamation, was bringing back the NatZ destroyed Napier Gisborne rail, and police services which was coupling with Garth McVicor. Both very popular issues which NatZ don’t show any interest in either.
CleanGreen says:
‘We need to keep Napier or NatZ may take it back and return to complete the ruin of this country, so what Stuart Nash said/did is nothing compared to what may happen if we encourage getting rid of Labour held seats.’
Actually it is the Party Vote that counts for NZ, if we don’t get more party votes for Labour and the Greens there cannot be a change of government. If Nash had not won Napier there would have been another Labour MP off the list. Same next year – if he loses the electorate his future depends on where he is on the list, and on the percentage party vote Labour wins.
True this is Tony,
Why I support Stuart Nash is that I come from Napier and saw Him working very hard indeed to win that seat as napier had been labour for many many years before and National was not suppoporting Napier, with anything we asked them rto help save our region.
Actions speak louder than words mate, we saw when the election for Amalgamation and the general election was held we saw Nashie was highly popular as he was meeting every one there and even putting up posters from his fire truck of course being bright red.
Nash is always in the paper here fighting for survival of our rail along with the HBRC, because again the national Party ids driving rail to ruin all around the country, and our rail supports his efforts.
If he made a mistake here it is still minor to what we see happen every day with the ruling party presently makes all the time and NZ seems to still favour them why I will never know.
If you want your own rail asset to remain in our hands Nash is there to help. It is one of his election planks.
By the way National are trying to steal the rail for a bike trail while people are dying under to many trucks so you make the call there since five died in highway 2 north of here at Kati Kati on the same type of windy single lane road last week.
We want our rail and Nash speaks for us.
Bu the way Wanye Walford is a creep, as when a group of us asked him to attend a public meeting with residents who were complaining about noise and pollution from over 2000 trucks a day passing on the road through the suburbs in
Napier 24/7 and he refused by saying “it was a urban myth”!!!!!!!!! He is useless.
We need to see the “big picture here” nobody’s perfect including every single politician.
Except ….. who, like Nash, was it that was going to ‘save rail’ then sold it for 30 pieces of silver when he became the Minister? That was a great ACT from from a supposed Labour MP.
Why would Stuart Nash spoil Labour’s moment in the Sun?
Attention seeking,? trying to stay relevant?
There are two people I would really like to see turfed out of Labour and that’s Shearer and Nash. If neither can stay on party message and discipline themselves, well then, out they go. They belong in the National party anyway.
The times they are a changing. The neo liberals time has come and gone and now is a dead turkey around the world. People will no longer tolerate their surreptitious lies .
It will be a matter of self preservation if anything that Labour finally edges these subversives out one by one.
Yep, completely agree with you WK.
Well he has got a nice looking missus. I think a 2nd or third …. He does have “B-Lairite” tendencies which need curbing by a fatal blow to the knee-caps. That’ll fix his tendency to stray and please all mee thinks.
Have I missed something here? It was the opening of a restaurant, no? And while Phil Quin is a Tory, it’s not like he’s a fascist.
Is it worth getting this upset over a platform that wasn’t even political in the first place?
‘Have I missed something here? It was the opening of a restaurant, no? And while Phil Quin is a Tory, it’s not like he’s a fascist.
Is it worth getting this upset over a platform that wasn’t even political in the first place?’
Good point, BUT THAT’S STUPID, nice to see a sense of proportion.
And the quoted news report said Little had ‘asked’ Nash to think about it, and that Nash had ‘agreed’. It’s the way good leaders of complex organisations work.
And the coordinated campaign of an explicitly Labour ticket for mayor, council, regional council and DHB is important in Wellington, and that is why Leggett had to reign from the party to run against the Labour mayoral candidate. It would be different elsewhere, where Labour politicians are running but without the Labour identity.
Fair cop Bomber. I have apologised to Andrew – and Annette – for my lack of judgement and admitted that I made a mistake.
Believe me, you won’t find anyone who will work harder in my portfolios, in Wellington or in Napier to ensure Andrew and the team win in 2017.
Comments are closed.