Mike Hosking will cheerlead the loudest when the Government dupe the country and the media next week with their TPPA dairy deal they’ve already signed.
The TPPA Dairy deal has been signed. All that is happening now is Key and Groser are pretending that it’s really hard so that they can all of a sudden pull a deal out and say ‘ta-dah, we did it’ – and the mainstream media are allowing them to do this.
TPP: Groser sees ‘glimmer’ on dairy access
John Key: Good chance of wrapping up Trans Pacific Partnership this week
TPPA could be concluded this week
Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement nearing do or die time
All the foot stomping about how hard it will be and that we’ll only sign a good deal and that we’ll walk away blah blah blah has all been a con and a trick to deflect from the fact that signing the deal will rob NZ of our economic and political sovereignty and make the exercise of voting once every 3 years even more of a waste of time because laws our Parliament pass here can simply be challenged by large trans national conglomerates in Courts where our sovereignty has no status.
Watch next week when all of a sudden Key and Groser announce they have the diary deal and all the media start gushing over how clever they’ve been and the real issues of political and economic sovereignty get drowned out by their applause.
That doesn’t mean we give up – far from it – we fight every inch and take every step and we highlight how easily the media have been played.
It may be that deals like TPPA may leave the masses with no alternative but a genuine revolution. My fear is that the technology to fight any revolt is becoming so sophisticated that it would easy to shut it down.
It’s the opposition’s fault that such a make or break is attached to something as irrelevant as dairy. We should be looking for a less polluting option than dairy anyway.
The call should have been entirely about the secrecy.
I still don’t know if the TPPA is a good idea or not. And that despite Jane Kelsey’s cogent criticisms. This is because I want to hear many informed voices and then to think about it for myself.
As a rule, enforceable multilateral rules for trade should help the weak and the small as we are unable to apply leverage unilaterally. (Examples being whaling and apple exports to Australia). On the other hand in establishing the trade rules in the first place, the Great Powers can apply pressure to skew the playing field in the first place. But this does not mean that there is no room for cunning and adroit minnows.
When the elephants fight the grass gets trampled, they say , but it might just be the best thing for earthworms. Let’s see what’s in the deal. You never know it might just be useful.
Actually. Elaborately manufactured goods are New Zealand’s largest export commodity. And we send it all to Australia.
Why should we except your comments?
Why should we except the last thirty years of failed fiscal and monetary policy?
It takes great hubris to believe economic crises doesn’t exist or has been tamed. It takes even greater hubris considering conservatives have succeeded in dismantling the regulatory regimes and automatic stabilisers that have helped prevent crises since the great Depresion.
Charles Kindleberger, in his great study of the booms and panics that afflicted market economies over the past several hundred years had noted similar hubris exhibited in earlier crises.
Those who attempt to defend the failed economic models and the policies which they derive from suggest that no model could (or should) predict well a “once in a hundred year flood.” But it is not just a hundred year flood—crises have become common. It is not just something that happenes to our economy. Crisis is man‐made—created by the economic system. Clearly, something is wrong with the models.
Hey save your bullyish pompous lecturing Nick. I suspect your comment has been disliked because your remarks about dairy are irrelevant given the fact that wikileaks has exposed evidence which has been extrapolated and demonstrated with argument over the last couple of years, that any TPPA is bad. You are in favour ‘despite’ Jane Kelsey’s opposition. Have you noticed she is not its only educated and articulate critic? A Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement would put at risk the best of New Zealand to give more power to foreign corporations. We have so much to lose with this shonky deal: control of our land and natural resources, affordable medicine, cultural diversity. A TPPA could give transnational companies the right to sue future governments if they legislated to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions or restrict the use of Genetic Engineering technology. It would give away the freedom of our children and grandchildren to
determine their own future as deal is irreversible. It has serious negative potential consequences for the expression of our culture with intellectual property protections. We should not be told what to do by other countries in a TPPA, just as we should not be letting smaller Pacific states be bullied into bad laws that make bad health, either. There are many many reasons why this secret deal is dangerous – and therefore why this dangerous deal is secret.
Yes martyn,
The deal would have already been signed by Key/McCully as they were told to do.
Key couldn’t’ risk the fallout at this time so is playing along as if it isn’t signed in his usual way of deceiving us all, as a born breed lair forever.
Here is the group Key’s “club” he has been inducted to.
http://www.tragedyandhope.com/technocracy-trilaterals-tpp-an-interview-with-patrick-wood/
I understand that my view (about free trade agreements) is not in the radical mainstream of readers of this blog. But if you can be bothered “unliking” my comment, please go the extra couple of steps and explain where my comment is wrong or unhelpful.
If we are to be a grown up movement, there has to be a love of debate, not just a lock-step adherence to orthodoxy.
This is particularly to all those who wish to reject any contribution (apart from a reaction to illogical and destructive trolling, which I most avowedly am not doing): first think why you are doing it. If you are so convinced that you wish to take that step, you should be ready to add to the debate.
I hope this is not just an inarticulate road-rage site. There are few enough political / policy discussion fora.
Nick…there is a time lag on this site between the writing of a comment/posting and it actually appearing…
The oligarchs and their corporate buddy buddy benevolent fund eh what.
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