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    1. The referendum will be a reality check for all those Māori who have made a living from being victims. My European ancestors lost land 200 years ago, where do I go for compensation? The Treaty is gone, get used to it.

      1. Your ancestors probably came here to do the same thing that happened to them, or to Australia, anywhere, they could find a home. Spread the love! You are here now, get used to it.

  1. If David Seeless wants a treaty referendum then it would have to be on the same stats as when it was signed.
    That would be something like 80,000 Maori to 2,000 whitey. These are only broad approximates of the figures but you get the drift.
    Wow Maori were so generous and kind to Whitey to sign this treaty, to establish terms and regulations with the base intruders to stop the troubles and mayhem,maintain the peace, and establish a working relationship.
    I want to hear more about this.
    Scholar s and all people with knowledge do your thing.
    But the numbers speak.

    1. That approximately 80000 exisiting in 1840 is approximately half of the Maori population in 1800 – because Maori murdered the other half in the musket wars – & were desperate to claim the equal protection of the Crown.

  2. This from Gordon Campbell, Scoop https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2402/S00009/on-tomorrow-and-the-spirit-of-moana-jackson.htm

    On Moana Jackson’s thoughts and findings:
    That notion, Jackson continued, requires “a profound suspension of disbelief”:
    “I’m not aware, for example, of any stage in French history, where the Emperor or President of France woke up and said, “I don’t want to exercise sovereignty in France anymore. I’ll ask the Tsar of Russia to do it.” And I certainly don’t know of any instance in Britain, where the king or queen of Britain woke up one morning and said, “I don’t want to exercise sovereignty in Britain anymore. I’ll go and ask the Kaiser in Germany to do it.’

    That is just historically not a fact of political and constitutional inter-relationships. And to assume that that is what our people did, flies in the face of that very human history, let alone the very Māori human history, where the notion of giving away the authority to make independent decisions is not just culturally inconceivable; it was politically impossible.

    That seems to me to express clearly how Maori would think and act in the signing of the Treaty. As Groucho Marx remarked sapiently “A child of five could understand this. Send for a child of five.”
    And Groucho Marx was a wise and cunning joker. And I am not joking that many MPs particularly in ACT National and that random doggie NZ First, aren’t really human now, and wouldn’t remember if they ever were, any thought from when being a child of five .

    1. If the British Empire intended the ToW to be a Partnership/co government/ co government then the original English document would have explicitly stated that.

      1. It’s not what at the time of the signing of the treaty it’s what happened after, the constant breaches of the treaty by the crown is why you’re we are here trying to protect Maori rights from a bunch of people who just showed up one day.

      2. Robbie Wg
        The poor dears who drew up the Treaty back in 1840 didn’t have bright, intelligent, advisors to help them. They had to use their brains coupled with understanding, rarely seen together these days.

    2. Yeah but wasn’t it a protection treaty, maori become a vassal of the crown. Then when the Brits lost their empire maori and pakeha became a vassal of the US empire with the Anzus treaty.

  3. Bad manners, rudeness and intolerance are clearly not white settler colonial privilege exclusively then

  4. Austerity is racist. Maori will bear the brunt of Nationals slash and burn agenda, and young Maori males will be the first to be let go as the Reserve Bank hikes interest rates to stop inflation.

    Iwi will simply be bought off with government contracts as the Treaty will be used to justify outsourcing public services to Maori organisations.

    1. Hence iwi are just as capitalist as whites??? It is just moving the deck chairs, not sure how maoris will bear the brunt then?

  5. With Mr 8.5% Seymour and Mr 6.5% Peters both being redneck Maori, Luxon must think he’s in bed with the devil

    1. Proving of course ‘Maori’ are not one voting block and have views as diverse as the rest of us.

  6. There was no blood bath, no uprising, the Prime Minister not reduced to tears, no dildos thrown just words which are not violence. The MSM and the lefts attempt to whip up a revolution through their continued misinformation and agenda against the government has failed.

    1. “Whip up a revolution” hahahaha, now there’s a conspiracy only someone from the right could come up with!
      Talk about hypocrisy on misinformation.

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