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  1. Thanks Martyn, Pretty spot on although I would take a few percent off Labour and a few percent off the Greens and give it to ACT who may be about to have their Bob Jones moment and hit 20 percent.
    Labour need to spend 3 years on the bench to take a good fucking hard look at themselves and come back in 2026 with renewed policy and direction that represents the working class without the woke bullshit.

    1. “Renewed policy and direction that represents the working class without the woke bullshit.”
      100% but suspect that the Labour Party are too far gone for this to be any longer possible?

      1. So then there’s only the Green and Maori parties to vote for in regards ” working class”?

  2. I read this morning that echocardiogram scans that check for heart blockage and damage, pretty normal medical procedure for 2023, are out to an 18 month waiting list. But the victims of this are being told to pay for it themselves, go private or use insurance.

    Labour have nearly completed our healthcare conversion to US standards unless one is willing to accept mid 20th century era medicine. Maybe that is what “Te Whatu Ora” means but I wish they’d just told us this is what they were up to! And yet I’m sure they campaigned on the opposite!

    All any of us want is just a return to even the Clark era of government free of incompetence and ideology. We are not seeking miracles and that is ALL National have to stump up if they want to win. Because the “left” sure can’t!

    1. Clark’s government never put up benefits, expanded state housing, or expanded public sector provision of services. They did nothing to improve collective bargaining or bring down power prices.

      1. Too late Millsy, we are already there! Those who have insurance and then there’s the others who don’t and wait 18 months, if they survive!

      2. “Do you know who I am?”

        – A̶a̶r̶o̶n̶ ̶G̶i̶l̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶ Tory Whanau

        I hope, as you discuss the Greens over the coming days, you give Mayor Whanau the same shit you have Gilmore all those years ago.

    2. National will get those scans done. They will outsource to private health organizations and you and I will pay. Then they will have to cut funding to education, health and infrastructure. Then we will suffer for many years until the errors of their ways are corrected. But hey Labour are much worst Xray, just remember that.

  3. 35% for Labour. At the number they will be losing some stars and up and Comer’s. I worry that they won’t have enough competent, trustworthy ministers to run a Govt.

    1. It’s difficult to imagine how Labour and the Greens could dump all the ‘wokeism’ stuff at this point, because they have no other way of differentiating themselves from the others.

      Virtually every policy change that would improve their popularity involves breaking ranks and dumping neo-liberalism and globalisation, which their corporate political donors would never allow.

      Perhaps the only thing the donors might allow would be to go full Joe Biden, circa 1994 — start railing against “super-predator” criminals, criminalise gang membership, hire tens of thousands of police, promise very long prison terms with mandatory sentencing, call for the death penalty to return, restore the three-strikes law, revive the boot camps, etc.

    2. Please name any stars in the current Labour line up and competent and trustworthy ones are as scarce as rocking horse shit.

    1. Glad you are getting the rewards you deserve.While I support National for their philosophy I agree there were areas they dropped the ball when in power and health was one .I believe if English had been voted in the situation would have improved. Now it is up to members like me to hold National to their promises in this area.

      1. you know what Trev? i don’t think you are trolling, so here is my opinion. i think Bill English’s heart was in the right place, i do not think he was a malicious man, but i think his policies were a bit shit. relying on computer programs to sort out human problems is at best a bit lazy.

  4. Trev – Labour current/former stars are Stu Nash, Mike Wood, Jacinda, and the good Doctor Sharma from Ham West, silly Willy and the TAB guy /Phil Twyford, d clark, Ginny etc..

  5. If National win, workers can forget about payrises and the sick can forget about healthcare.

  6. Free dental would be a nice to have but I have just made an appointment to see my dentist to repair a broken tooth .Cost quote was between $1500 and $2000 and he cannot see me yntil 23rd Aug . If it was free it would be a lot longer wait .

  7. Martyn: “The Greens have finally dumped the woke alienating identity politics bullshit and are FINALLY talking about a wealth tax, building more homes and protecting renters from the obscene greed of the fucking Landlords! T”

    Except the Greens haven’t publicly renounced their extreme line on gender ID ideology. All the other policies (wealth taxt, building homes, focus on renters etc), are ones I strongly support.

    The GP have a track record of foregrounding such great policies during election time and putting gender ID on a back burner. then during the parliamentary term they come on strong with extreme gender ID stuff. That’s just devious!

    Martyn; “Greens: Must dump the identity politics shit ”

    Yes! They need to publicly renounce their gender ID extremism. That’s the only way I’ll vote GP again, otherwise, I just will continue not to trust them.

  8. Looks like Labour are reaping the reward for their “donation” of $2.75 million to Harry Tam’s meth programme. Endorsement from the Mongrel Mob. Just what Labour need – but then again, any help gratefully accepted.

    1. I’m sorry you think that all Maori are criminal and need to have their rights stripped from them.

    2. So the millions donated to the Nact parties are from the Wealthy elitist “mongrel mob” and judging by the constant media attacks those elite are getting value for money. Just wait until you see how they will be rewarded through Nacts policies.

  9. I cant make up my mind as to what National will poll on the day. I suspect a high Green vote (8%) whilst possible due to their policies on tax and renting will come at Labour’s expense. I think you are spot on with TOP and TMP. I dont believe ACT will go over 15% and may not even get that far. Again, Nats and Act will constrain each others vote.

    The one I cant make up my mind about is NZF.

    A fair few people are talking about voting it but the polls and pundits are saying No Way! They also suffer from the when forced to make a decision power problem ie: I want to vote NZF but if they dont get across the line as the polls are saying, I will have wasted my vote so I better just vote National.

    So on that basis, I think NZF could be anywhere between 3 to 5.5%.

    Then the other thing that possibly is not being factored in and that is the silent majority. Polls and socials do not a population make.

    There is great possibility that the turn out will be either way down or actually sky high. Do people dislike the current Govt enough to be determined to register a vote (Conversely feel strongly about which side their bread is buttered) or do they feel utterly worn down and see no point in choosing between effectively 2 incompetent sides?

    The idea of a silent conservative backlash on the day is very possible especially with low overall turnout but on poll results it does seem that the left has the edge at the moment.

    1. ILAM is my electoral area. The TOP meeting was a joke with promises of the money he could drag into Chch vote his vote. 6 years ago he may have stood a chance but he is yesterday’s man now . Pallet has been invisible for the last 3 years . The new National candidate stands a good chance if National do a good job selling the party

  10. LOL, Liz Gunn. Can’t wait to watch her crash and burn.
    Jesus, I read somewhere that even Labour’s biggest donation last election was $500,000 – and this washed-up former newsreader turned antivaxx conspiracy theorists expects some poor sap to pay her a *million*?? What’s she going to do with it?? Buy herself another house? Spare me.

  11. What puzzles many people is that the polls don’t correspond with mounting anecdotal evidence. This year, it has been increasingly common to find anonymous commenters on social media declaring they have always voted Labour or Greens but this election they’ll be voting National – and sometimes going straight to ACT.

    On The Platform on Monday, one caller told host Sean Plunket that they thought the polls were “a bit suspect”, adding, “I have friends who have voted for Labour for 30-plus years who aren’t voting Labour. They are all farmers who will be back to National [this election] but none of this is reflected in the polls.”

    Former Labour Cabinet minister Michael Bassett told Plunket last week that he too is puzzled. Describing the government as “fairly low-grade” with a “pretty unlovely six years” in office, he believed it is “on its way out”. He said he had “pretty good connections around the traps” and the polling results for Labour do not correspond with what he is hearing. He detected a “significant change taking place… There is movement going on politically and it’s not kind to Labour.

    “National is fairly static, but ACT is roaring away. Moreover, there are signs that some Labour people are beginning to go to ACT – which would scarcely be surprising given that ACT came out of Labour.”
    Don’t forget polls also predicted Hillary Clinton would win in 2016 and Bill Shorten in 2019.

    1. The Platform…source of truth? Oh dear, fetch me the rope!

    2. bruh! it would be considered suspect as soon as someone who says they are a farmer who has always voted labour, but will return to national. so they haven’t always voted labour. i mean… you gotta see where im coming from here, dontcha?

  12. It’s not puzzling if you think critically. National and (nobody knows who you are Luxon) are simply unelectable, that’s why the polls are correct. Rather than listen to the right wing Platform and hear what you want to hear, get out on the street to a not so captured audience.

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