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  1. I think we take for granted that we’ve lived in the most stable period of time in all of history for the last 40 years. If we compare the treatment of Maori under Muldoon to now, we’ve made many remarkable achievements to make peace with Maori. And if we compare police commissioner Howard Broad to Andrew Coster, Maori are getting along with everyone remarkable well.

    My basic premise is that if we can not maintain that basic order and stability then economic growth and social cohesion will be difficult to maintain.

    That little cascade that I described basically means that when wealth shifts, power shifts and changes the relationship, and when relationships change, the underlying order has to change.

    Let me say it another way I’m very proud of the treaty settlement process for one reason, that reason is that over time Maori will become wealthy. But instead of but instead of saying we welcome your wealth and experience, Maori are told nope, leadership and governance isn’t good enough for you so stay in the dirt. That will be even more risky for all of us.

    A second thing to consider is that China has completed by the largest shift in wealth and power in all of human history meaning meaning that guy running global finance or what ever does not speak for China.

    It’s very difficult to keep perspective when relative wealth and power shifts and managing those shifts in wealth and power and there fore relationships and the shifts in the underlying order and the tensions that flow from those shifts in the foundations of New Zealand’s democracy.

  2. Brilliant column, thanks Chris. As the government’s “bodyguards” over Three Waters, the MSM simply can’t understand the increasing hostility of the public towards them.
    As you say: “The wonder of it all is that Vance and her journalistic colleagues still evince surprise and indignation when they find themselves bracketed with the Left’s politicians as ‘enemies of the people’.”
    With Mahuta away for three critical weeks in the run-up to the introduction of Three Waters legislation in early December, it falls to Ardern to answer criticism and explain what Mahuta won’t. My bet is that she will duck the mayors’ call for a meeting.
    https://democracyproject.nz/2021/11/15/graham-adams-ardern-on-the-hook-over-three-waters/

  3. This is an excellent summary of where things are at with the government 3 Water proposals.
    Local government does not dispute that we all need to have clean, safe water in this country. It also does not dispute the role of Mana whenua. It does, however, dispute having its assets, paid for by generations of ratepayers, stolen from them and handed to an undemocratic arms’ length “board” acceptable to international money lenders.
    The government’s 3 Waters proposals are based on an orchestrated litany of lies. Central government have generalised at how bad things are. The media have happily written that up as gospel. The number of people poisoned each year through water is exaggerated beyond belief. The new water standards have not been set yet but the government is trumpeting that it will cost between $120b and $185b to rectify the current structures. How can we treat figures which have a 50% variation seriously? The projected “savings” by the new structures are also a myth. This system is modelled on Scottish Water which has managed 25% savings over the years. The NZ proposed structure is budgetted to save 50%. The structure of the companies is undemocratic, and unnecessarily complicated.
    Basically central government has no intention of investing in the 3 Waters infrastructure in this country. This is stated in their documents. This whole exercise is an abbrogation of responsibility of central government.
    It would be possible to create regional structures, which would be a partnership between local and central government and iwi, which will reduce duplication and promote collaboration, something foreign to this government.
    I was a Labour Mayor for 9 years. I have never seen more poorly thought through public policy in my life. It’s time for the Labour Party to stop treating local government as an illegitimate cousin at the family banquet.

    1. My thanks for those comments, Gary. It is immensely helpful to have confirmation from someone of your experience.

      To discover that the central government is forcing local authorities to fund their infrastructure upgrades almost entirely from offshore borrowing is deeply concerning.

      1. Yeah but we don’t have tarrifs and no one owns the water. Unless we want to ban was we exports, some how we are going to have to take a bit of that water export revenue and pile it back into water infrastructure in the form of cheap loans (China loans).

  4. This piece has attracted far fewer comments than seems to be normal at this stage. That’s interesting.

    Why? It has got to be to do with ambivalence around 50/50 co-governance and royalties. I wonder if Mr Moore would care to be more specific on this point?

    If the ambivalence is a real thing, never would truer words have been spoken than these of Chris’s:

    “At their heart lies a deep (and not unjustified) fear that the truth will outrage sufficient New Zealanders to kill the project stone dead. This government, and its journalistic bodyguard, no longer trust the democratic system to deliver the “right” answers. Their response: to propose, and defend, a massive centralisation of power in bodies sealed-off from democratic accountability.”

    I think it would be good for Mahuta just to be honest on these issues. Then truly racist folks would show themselves to be that, idiots likewise, and the spectrum of positions would come into focus for all to see. We would have the chance to talk about something like (or maybe quite unlike) a SeaLords deal for water.

    New Zealand really needs a wider political settlement on water for a host of reasons, not least reasons linked to agricultural, industrial and urban pollution of it. Parker knows that. But the settlement does need to be a genuine settlement – something agreed. Steamrolling here will be a disaster.

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