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    1. The way I see it , is that there are number of elements worth considering:

      1) Trump was accused of Russian interference in USA elections.

      2) What better way to defer those claims than be seen to get ‘ heavy’ with Russia – and Assad.

      3) USA attacked a basically pre-warned ‘ empty ‘ airfield.

      4) Russian troops and Syrian troops were evacuated from that airfield.

      5) Prior warning was given to both the Russians and the Syrians.

      6) Russia wants an oil pipeline through Syria.

      7) Syria benefits from royalty’s from that pipeline. Iraq supports Russia and Syria because they back the Shiites theocracy ( in Iraq) .

      8) USA backs Saudi Arabia because of it fulfills its energy requirements – and Saudi Arabia , Qatar and Bahrain used the Clinton Foundation as a conduit for arms to be distributed to ISIS.

      9 ) Saudi Arabia is a Sunni Muslim majority – and supports ISIS because they are Sunni. Sunni Muslims believe Shiites are heretics and worthy of the death penalty.

      10 ) Iraq is a Shiite Muslim theocracy. Syria is a secular govt.

      11) Saudi Arabia see Shiite Iraq and secular Syria as a religious/ political threat to their Monarchy.

      12 ) The reason why Obama did not fight ISIS was because it went contrary to the Clinton Foundation and USA arms manufacture / profits. And contrary to the wishes of the Saudi govt / monarchy. It also went contrary to USA oil / energy / economic requirements .

      13) This way Trump deflects domestic opinion about Russian interference of USA elections by looking ‘ tough ‘ against Russia.

      14) At the same time, Trump is entertaining the Chinese President in Florida- and orders airstrikes on Syria.

      15 ) This sends a message to North Korea ,- but the REAL message is in fact directed towards China – with the message that the USA is willing to use force in the South China seas.

      16) This also forces NATO country’s to finance their own military efforts against Russia – something that Trump has warned them about. Trump is no longer wishing to subsidize NATO military expenses.

      17) This also weakens the U N’s moral high ground – particularity in regards to its relations with NATO country’s against Russia. Russia is no great friend of China. This plays into Trumps geopolitical objectives in lessening the U N ‘s influence in domestic USA policy’s and control.

      17) This whole incident is a mock up for political effect.

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      There will be no World War Three.

      This whole thing has been an agreed on political exercise between the USA , Russia and Syria. It has used the privatized MSM as their propaganda wing and willing stooges.

      It placates the Israeli population to be seen to deal a blow against Pan Arab-ism / Muslim faiths without severing vital political links between Russia and the USA or its financial commitments towards Israel. And thus reinforce support for the Israeli Knesset without raising suspicions of USA / Russian collaboration.

      The USA has bombed an pre agreed- unpon empty airfield in Syria for political effect against China.

      And this is all it was always about.

      Nothing more.

      The airfield that was bombed had at most an old rusty wire fence, a few empty hangars, the destruction of a few jet fighters worth a few million which is peanuts compared to Russia’s oil pipeline, virtually nil military casualties , and was agreed on before it even happened.

      We live in the era of fake news.

      Get a grip on yourselves.

      The only thing to come out of all this is to enrage the moral fiber of ordinary decent citizens and to provide yet even more cannon fodder for those global controllers who stand to profit by it.

      Do not be fooled by their theatrics.

      Its fake.

      Its as fraudulent as an Eleven dollar bill.

      Give them the one fingered salute for their foolishness in thinking we would ever be so easily taken in.

    2. Oh ,.. and btw,… it want Assad who used those chemical weapons,… it was the rebels backed by Saudi Arabia who wanted to stall the latest negotiations.

      And like the fawning fool that it is, … the USA played along with it.

      I’d like to use the words ‘ wankers’ and ‘ fuckers’ … but that isn’t considered polite political jargon. Even if innocent civilians die because of these shitheads.

      But you know what I mean.

      I’m just glad I’m a Kiwi and not known for mincing words.

      A little bit like our Aussie cousins, – except we are a little bit more honest than them these days it seems.

      Thank Goodness.

  1. in 2013 the UN put out a report confirming that the “rebels” Al Queda/Al Nusra, were in possession of and had used sarin gas on Syrian soldiers and civilians
    In 2014 , after the Syrian govts chemical weapons had been removed and destroyed under Russian and US supervision, the OPCW declared that the last of Assads chemical weapons had been destroyed.
    Meaning that the rebels were the only armed group in Syria with chemical weapons
    Khan Sheikhoun was under the control of Al Nusra/Al Queda.
    Why is it so impossible to imagine that they didn’t have a cache of sarin there?
    “Experts” have apparently refuted the Russian claim that the Syrian air strikes damaged a sarin cache, thus releasing gas, claiming that this would be impossible, that you can’t store sarin gas, and that it loses its efficacy when exploded
    Today, the US military said they didn’t target the building storing the Syrians sarin because the explosion would have caused the release of sarin gas and hurt civilians
    So which is it?
    You can’t have it both ways
    And what happened to the missiles that went astray and are unaccounted for, if the strikes had such precision
    This is a school boys tale, the only grown ups seem to be the Russians showing statesman ship and restraint

    1. Exactly!! And I’ve yet to be convinced that in was Sarin that affected the victims. In fact the only reporting as far as I can tell has come from Al Queda/Al Nusra spokespeople, who cannot be trusted to report the truth.

      1. Yes it was a faming of Assad here as he was getting to much support from others for the Syrian opposition to be happy so they framed Assad, it was probably inspired by CIA too.

  2. Geoffrey Palmer was on the radio this morning putting a strong case for NZ neutrality.
    We can’t afford to remain tied to an increasingly bellicose, criminal and decaying US.
    It filled me with anger and shame to hear McCully spouting off in high moral tones about Assads war crimes in Syria
    Where was his voice when US air strikes left children in Mosul dying under rubble, when tens of innocent civilians were killed at a funeral in Yemen, when the US has admitted to using (banned) depleted uranium in Syria, when Israel decides to “mow the lawn “in Gaza
    He put so much store by NZs temporary seat at the security Council, then applauds missile strikes on Syria before the Security Council has even met to discuss the sarin attack, before the details of the attack have even been verified by a thorough and independent investigation
    There are no NGOS on the ground at Khan Sheikhoun, no western journalists, no Red Cross, UN bodies,Amnesty International or HRW
    Why?Because you’re liable to get your head chopped off by “rebels”
    as happened to James Foley and Stephen Sotloff, both abducted in Aleppo and publicly beheaded
    So the only news coming out of Idlib governorate is from the people dedicated to getting rid of Assad, White Helmets and the like, trained in media by those western powers desperate also to unseat Assad
    They don’t want his secular government, or his free higher education for women, or religious freedoms, they want sharia law, all over Syria , not just Idlib
    It sickens me that we give propaganda succour to these people.
    Lets make independence and neutrality an election issue

    1. Yes, – Lets make independence and neutrality an election issue we are so far from the action anyway.

  3. Geoffrey Palmer was on the radio this morning putting a strong case for NZ neutrality.
    We can’t afford to remain tied to an increasingly bellicose, criminal and decaying US.
    It filled me with anger and shame to hear McCully spouting off in high moral tones about Assads war crimes in Syria
    Where was his voice when US air strikes left children in Mosul dying under rubble, when tens of innocent civilians were killed at a funeral in Yemen, when the US has admitted to using (banned) depleted uranium in Syria, when Israel decides to “mow the lawn “in Gaza
    He put so much store by NZs temporary seat at the security Council, then applauds missile strikes on Syria before the Security Council has even met to discuss the sarin attack, before the details of the attack have even been verified by a thorough and independent investigation
    There are no NGOS on the ground at Khan Sheikhoun, no western journalists, no Red Cross, UN bodies,Amnesty International or HRW
    Why?Because you’re liable to get your head chopped off by “rebels”
    as happened to James Foley and Stephen Sotloff, both abducted in Aleppo and publicly beheaded
    So the only news coming out of Idlib governorate is from the people dedicated to getting rid of Assad, White Helmets and the like, trained in media by those western powers desperate also to unseat Assad
    They don’t want his secular government, or his free higher education for women, or religious freedoms, they want sharia law, all over Syria , not just Idlib
    It sickens me that we give propaganda succour to these people.
    Lets make independence and neutrality an election issue

  4. … what of the attack itself which prompted Trump’s missile strike? Has it been proven that the Syrian Government ordered it and carried it out? I am not aware of actual evidence that this is the case. The best we have is conjecture, awaiting verification. (And assertions on the part of Turkey which some might view as rather sketchy and questionably motivated) Russia has stated – quite validly, might I add – that if the United States is in possession of evidence as “incontrovertible” as has been claimed of Syrian culpability, that this should be made public as promptly as possible. They have also floated a counter-narrative of Syrian warplanes hitting a chemical munitions depot controlled by rebels; whilst others have suggested the potential for some form of deliberate ‘atrocity propaganda’ by those opposed to Assad.

    Certainly, there are a regrettably lengthy span of instances which prove either narrative may have validity. In the case of the former, the UN’s Carla Del Ponte has already made the case for anti-Assad forces carrying out at least one chemical weapons attack in Syria already. Whilst others have scratched their heads asking what on earth Assad could POSSIBLY have to gain from carrying out this kind of attack mere days after the stunning reversal of US position on his government.

    And in the case of the latter, it has become regrettably customary for Western military interventions to be prefaced with all manner of exaggerations and outright lies in order to create a moral imperative for NATO ordnance to begin raining down in earnest.

    Curwen Rollerson

    While the Liberal Left tie themselves up in knots of illogic and conjecture, trying to explain the gas attack, and the motives and persons behind it.

    Having been in Syria, and since closely followed events there.

    I have to ask:

    Has no one ever heard of Occam’s razor?

    Copied from a post by the Lebanese-Australian anthropologist Ghassan Hague, whose comments on the Middle East are always spot on….

    “The US bombing of a Syrian airfield has nothing to do with saving Syrians from the criminality of the Assad regime. The US have supported this regime and its criminality when it suited them and they will do it again. And as Maya Mikdashi has pointed out you cannot act as if you care about the victims of Assad when you are at the same time demonising them as refugees and blocking their escape routes.
    Having said this, those who ask ‘what interest does Assad have in using chemical weapons?’ are asking the wrong question. The use of chemical weapons by Assad is not a strategic decision. The question makes it out as if this bombing is a unique event. Chemicals are an integral dimension of Assad’s dictatorial rule, and its mode of humiliating, crushing, terrorising and eliminating dissent. To use a sentence by my friend the late Patrick Wolfe ‘it is a structure not an event’. It is at the core of the necro-politics that is at the foundation of Assad’s Syria. So much so that we can speak of a chemico-necropolitics.
    In this way it is no different to American imperialism which from Vietnam to Iraq has a distinctly chemico-necropolitics at its base, or to Israel’s phosphoric bombs-laced subjugation of Palestinians, except that in the Assad regime’s case, it is a government’s relation to its own people.

  5. And as to why Trump fired the “Tomahawks Of April”?

    Curwen Rollerson and others have remained sceptical at Donald’s Trump’s new found concern for murdered Syrian children.

    The fact that Donald Trump was sitting down to dinner with Xi Jinping at the same time the attack was going down, might have had something to do with it.

    I wonder how Mr Xi got to hear of it? Did one of his aides whisper it in his ear? Or did Donald Trump bring it up, “Oh, by the way Xi, while we are discussing North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, I have just launched 59 cruise missiles (at US$2 million a piece) against Basha Assad’s forces for using WMDs. What do you think about them apples?”

    US “Strike Force” moves towards North Korea.

    Earlier this week President Trump  threatened to “act alone” against North Korea as he met Chinese President Xi Jinping face-to-face for the first time in Florida.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3291286/us-navy-strike-group-is-moving-towards-north-korea-amid-mounting-tensions-over-despot-kim-jong-uns-nuke-tests/

  6. This is easily the best write-up of Trump’s ill-advised and belligerent attack I’ve read so far (and I’ve read quite a few). Nicely done!

    1. Ditto, nitrium. Curren has sussed it perfectly. I don’t for a minute believe that Assad carried out the gassing. The fact the target was of no military value suggests that this was a propaganda excise and not a real battlefield exercise.

      It’s unfortunate that the mum is not questioning this further.

      This story simply doesn’t stack up.

  7. It ain’t over yet – a US carrier was pulled out of Singapore off schedule & is steaming for the Sea of Japan.

    Gunboat diplomacy – an approach so simplistic even Trump can follow it.

    1. Foreign wars are balm for domestic problems – worked a treat for Maggie Thatcher for example. Trump is far from secure at home – a little shelling of traditional enemies will do his polls the world of good.

  8. Trump’s show of force in launching 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles costing $2 million US a piece, at an evacuated Syrian airbase, while while sitting down to dinner with the Chinese president, was a pointed message to the Chinese over the South China Sea, and North Korea.

    Analysts had earlier said the strikes contained a clear message for Pyongyang that the US was not afraid to exercise the military option, and there had been speculation as to how the North would respond.
    Trump has recently threatened unilateral action against Pyongyang if Beijing fails to help curb its neighbour’s nuclear weapons programme.
    However, Pyongyang’s response suggested the reclusive state was determined to continue with its nuclear weapons programme.

    http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/north-korea-blasts-us-strikes-on-syria-says-justify-nukes-state-media/ar-BBzzWze?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartanntp

  9. Who knows where or when this is going to end, at the end of the day there are no winners with a military strategy?

    Just a lot misery, human scarring and tragedy just look at Vietnam as an example?

  10. My feeling is that the gas used in the attack on the rebel areas by the regime was not sarin, more likely it was chlorine. Easier to manufacture and commonly packed into the barrel bombs that the government regularly drop from helicopters onto civilian rebel held towns and areas. Actions that the Assad regime usually get away with, drawing little condemnation from the West.

    So why has the Trump administration raised the stakes by claiming that the regime has started using a nerve agent like sarin on their people.

    Many are not convinced by Trump’s new found concern for murdered Syrian children, more likely than not, a greater justification than normal was needed by the Trump administration to justify their attack on the regime.

    Many are not convinced by Trump’s newfound concern for murdered Syrian children.

    So why was the Trump administration moved to raise the stakes and attack the regime on this occasion?

    Several commentators have posited that the timing had a lot to do with the high profile meeting between Donald Trump and President Xi Jinping, delivering a pointed threat about the US and China’s differences over the South China Sea and North Korea.

    That the attack was launched as Xi and Trump sat down to dinner could hardly be a coincidence.

  11. ” … A certain ‘humanitarian’ impulse lies behind Trump’s decision…”

    It’s actually a certain ‘human’ impulse. To do with ego.

  12. I await an ISIS response: if Trump is now their enemy’s enemy, does that make him their friend?!

    Pedantic point: “baited breath” is the correct spelling in only one example in the English language, in a poem “Cruel clever cat”:

    Sally, having swallowed cheese,
    Directs down holes the scented breeze,
    Enticing thus with baited breath
    Nice mice to an untimely death.
    (Geoffrey Taylor, 1930s)

    Otherwise, check out your Shakespeare, specifically, Shylock

    And while at it: you can’t make “avowed fools of plans”, only of those who might have prepared them.

  13. The international bankers [based mostly in the US and Britain] cannot stand the independent policies of Russia, and want Russia’s resources brought under their control.

    What we have been witnessing recently is yet another phase of a relentless campaign to subjugate Russia and loot the place that goes back to Russian Revolution.

    If the criminals and clowns that now constitute the bulk of western governments and western bureaucracies think they are going to win any war against Russia they are utterly deluded to the point of complete madness.

    That said, the bankers have made such a shocking mess of the western world and placed the western world in an utterly untenable position and unsustainable position via the squandering of resources and the promotion of grossly polluting activities: they are now rapidly running out of options (manipulating interest rates and manipulating markets no longer generates the required results)……and when bankers run out of options they always promote war.

    These are the most dangerous times in all of human history, both because the western world is government by maniacs and liars and because the energy systems and environment that have supported industrial civilization for over 200 years are now in terminal decline. Concurrent to the shocking energetic and environmental predicaments, the bulk of western populaces now have a sense of materialistic entitlement that has been fostered by the ‘controllers’ for many decades, and the media has been subjugated to a role of promoting squandering of energy and resources. All of it is a recipe for calamity, which is what we are now witnessing, socially, economically and environmentally.

    Expect the lies that now characterize all western government to get ever bigger over the coming years, and expect ever greater military conflict, as the maniacs in control attempt to hang on to their ill-gotten acquisitions at the expense of everyone else, including their own progeny.

    1. You may be a conspiracist, but having studied and read a certain amount of history, I have a nasty suspicion that you may well be close to the truth.

      Sad times.

  14. As I said it in another post on TDB, the true ‘President’ in the White House is now called Ivanka Trump (assisted by her Jewish husband and friend of Israel, Jared Kushner).

    Bannon has been dumped by Trump, and he is now listening to his daughter, who he thinks a lot of.

    We have a family named Trump run the show, with useful generals and security service heads, who have close ties to the US Industrial Military Complex.

    Nothing much good will come of this, I fear.

  15. Curwen;

    You have to be commended for your tremendous effort on your paper.

    And with Wild Katipo’s excellent analysis (above) together, the 4 links below will flesh out (and some) the various points raised.

    There is no doubt that the gas attack would have to be a False Flag.(ie Not Assad-no motive)
    When we see ‘White Helmets’ scurrying around with no protective clothing handling the ‘victims’ it just endorses the gut feeling that what we see is being staged again.(Like 2013)

    A McCain/Deep State operation. He visited recently just like he did with the 2013 attack.

    Trump is no ‘Buthead’ and would know this already.

    But what does a President do when confronted with this,with all the anti-Russian
    ‘Trump is Putin’s Puppet’ rhetoric raging back home?
    He has no choice but to act.

    Russia and Syria were notified (along with others) of what was about to unfold.

    4yrs ago Assad signed an agreement that when ISIS was cleared from Syria he would then reform the political system and hold democratic elections.

    There are multi-level goals to be achieved with this action by the Trump Administration.

    At the moment there is no formal agreement with Russia to co-ordinate in the elimination of ISIS.
    If Trump could pull this one off it would be a very painful ‘poke in the eye’ for
    the Globalists.

    “If this strike didn’t happen, and Trump went to Russia to forge a coalition to fight ISIS, the neo-cons in Congress and his administration would undermine him while claiming publicly he’s a “Russian puppet.” But now, with the strike, he can “deescalate” tensions with Russia into a coalition to fight ISIS under the guise of stopping bloodshed in Syria…”

    Machiavellian Trump?
    https://www.infowars.com/trumps-syria-strike-what-theyre-not-telling-you/

    Dr Pieczenik – Intel Insider: Listen carefully to Pieczenik’s words. Pertinate facts about Steve Bannon as well as Dr Jerome Corsi’s comments.
    https://www.infowars.com/pieczenik-cruise-missile-strikes-were-a-statement-to-china/

    I would not give too much credence to the Express article about Ivanka when it seems that there is a serious problem with Jared Kushner, Trumps son in law.
    Roger Stone interview also has pertinate comments about Steve Bannon.

    “Tens of thousands of troops being dumped,as we speak,on the ground from the US Military.”
    https://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-carried-out-syria-missile-strike-after-being-convinced-by-daughter-ivanka/

    Summary.
    https://www.infowars.com/false-flag-attack-started-syriaus-conflict-alex-jones-reports/

    UPDATE:
    https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-massive-us-invasion-of-syria-has-already-begun/

    Let us hope the Globalists get out-played again.

    Cheers.

      1. Info Wars is the new mainstream media with out the political fairy dust, not totally dust free I mean info wars is roght wing so will play up any divide there to trigger click bait and generally be triggering.

  16. It’s amazing the biased MSM is unanimously in favour of Trump’s (or what Jimmy Dore calls him “Donnie Tiny Hands”) impulsive actions last weekend. That Brian Williams from MSNBC calling the images of launched tomahawk missiles ‘beautiful’ just makes you want to vomit! Just find one journalist in Corporate media speaking out against the mess in Syria – well there are none! Go back to the Iraq War – Phil Donahue who had the highest rated show on MSNBC got fired for speaking out against the war which just exposes their corruption in unspeakable volumes.

    And it’s really sad how independent media outlets such as Kyle Kulinski’s Secular Talk and The Jimmy Dore Show naming a few, have to rely on Patreon patrons to keep their shows afloat given the ad revenue streams being pulled from the many YouTube channels out there. Establishment meddling to its rotten core!

    As for Hillary Clinton and the situation in Libya and Benghazi – the video is out there when she gleefully made that preposterous statement in response to Gaddafi’s death (“We came, we saw, he died”). While Trump may be bad right now, she would have been much worse being the warhawk that she is. I so glad she lost – and it’s even worse when the Corporate Democrats refuse to admit they lost in forcefeeding a terrible candidate but instead, they blame Russia for rigging the election. Look how that’s backfiring on them now! Keep it up and no doubt Trump will win another term!

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