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  1. If that analysis of National is correct, and a party of self serving personalities like National could be that factional, then I’m not surprised. Collins was so very bad her replacement simply couldn’t come fast enough and drilling down into silly things like references was never going to happen, such was the pure desperation.

    Luxon is a duffer, used to either getting his way through his title or subordinates obsequiousness does not maketh a Prime Ministers personality that appeals to the public. Plus his unaware/out to lunch style is hopeless. And don’t his MP’s know it! I think some of their raw anger displayed at their conference (Chris Bishop) is because of that.

    Nationals ruinous “tax relief for hard working kiwis” aka The Lux and his cronies, is so 90’s. These morons appear to be as dumb on how things work as Labour!

    But…

    I agree with Ryan Bridge. On every measure we are worse off than before Labour was elected. The stats in this case do not lie. With the exception of Willie, a cabinet of polished school leaver politicians who offered so much promise but who otherwise could not work out collectively how to change a light bulb. And worse what we see is the cream of the crop. There may be the odd MP apart from Willie there who has been around enough outside of university to know how things work but we dont get to see them.

    Both major parties are near indistinguishable and both mirror each other for giving an honest appearance of incompetence. And neither deserve our votes!

    1. You need to stop and consider the amount of time and effort that Labour has had to expend on the pandemic. Couple this with the fact they were hobbled by the megalomaniacs of NZ First and who knows what they may have achieved.
      The anger shown by Bishop and the attack speech from Willis both showing a lack of coherent policy and costings shows how desperate they are to cover up the mess they are in.
      I wonder what their internal polling is showing.
      Its obviously not telling them that attack is not the best form of defense.
      The headline on Stuff is telling ” the 70s are back and want their policies” shows a complete lack of forward thinking. Next they will want to ban laptops and give the police powers skin to the night raids in Sth Auckland in the fight against overstayers

    2. Really? Is the unemployment rate worse than when Labour came to power? If you are going to use metrics then I would suggest that child poverty is not actually “worse” ( while clearly not being acceptable) than we labour came to power either. Sorry but sweeping statements like “every measure” from a man that found man buns acceptable, needs scrutiny.

  2. The story is repeated that Luxon is in power to hang the tax system to make an extra 18000 a year . To me it is strange to think a man will give up a job paying 4 plus million a year to do so .Once in those type of CEO roles he could have just moved to another one after Air NZ . I am also surprised that so many left wing writers have such an inside knowledge of the National,party.

    1. He’s given up a ginormous salary for more widespread power & influence. Ego gratification, in other words. His political career is only for the short term before he returns to corporate life.

      Starting to sound like his mentor, hmmm?

    2. Trevor they spend more time reading, listening, and thinking than you spend in being surprised – that’s why they know stuff. And they get told by others doing the same if they make mistakes so the crew of thinkers keep each other sharp. You can be part of it if you just re-examine your own ideas and thoughts regularly and then apply your critiques to what is swirling around in the political mist and you will rarely have missed anything of note.

  3. A holiday in Hawaii for Luxon would have been okay if he actually was rich. John Key was rich. He was house in Hawaii rich. Luxon is just some ex-CEO with a minor property portfolio on a House of Travel deal in a second rate hotel making sure he takes advantage of the all you can eat buffet breakfast.

    1. The poor guy cannot win . Many on this forum slam Luxon for being rich and actually daring to own 7 properties but for you he is too poor to be of any concequence.

  4. The poor guy cannot win . Many on this forum slam Luxon for being rich and actually daring to own 7 properties but for you he is too poor to be of any concequence.

  5. Haha you had me at “the hatchet was buried alongside Judith Collins lead lined coffin” – lol! Sunday Funday 😉

  6. My prediction… Willis is on the move to take over from Luxon next. She’s Judeath 2.0. Better get the lead lined coffin ready. Rinse and repeat. That’ll be National for the next decade at least. That’ll be every political party for the next decade. Meanwhile, the voting base grows, and grows younger every year. Bring it on!

  7. Pity the left in Christchurch couldn’t organize a few demos to give the Nats the disturbed sleep they deserve

    1. Labour did well on covid but other than that they struggle to organise anything of note that is why there is so much disappointment and dissatisfaction

      1. Are people dissatified they didn’t die (from covid ) or are they dissappointed Trev lives are worth more than any amount of money

  8. Labour have made many mistakes, and the Caucus just loves their neo Blairist “stuff you” contraryism. But, they have also made hundreds of useful incremental changes from Paid Parental Leave increases and Minimum Wage hikes to implementing micro economic measures via the PGF.

    So while the key political task is still to boot Rogernomics in the next few elections one way or another, voting Natzo is not an alternative anyone with even half a brain would consider unless they are selfish old tory blokes!

    1. So the rhetoric of the rabid ranting right wing nut jobs like Bob that Labour have achieved nothing is just silly, childish innuendo? That’s what we all knew.

  9. Cringeworthy. Not an original thought or a solution in sight. Yes, stuck in the 90’s but without the discipline and experience of those like Bill English.

    Tear down, criticise, worship at the altar of demeaning the opposition (Not that it isnt deserved).

    If I was a right wing voter, ACT is where I’d be going with my vote.

  10. I’m surprised bishop didn’t swallow his tongue during his the nation interview motor mouth spewing vile creature.

  11. I’m surprised bishop didn’t swallow his tongue during his the nation interview motor mouth spewing vile creature.

  12. It’s probably too late to drop in another leader.

    And who would it be, anyways?

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