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  1. I’m not sure that mobility scooters travel at walking speed, and they have the potential to do a lot of damage at the speeds they go. But generally the speeds they do move at are low enough that the person in control has time to avoid collision with those few that actually do walk the streets.
    The issue is the speed these scooters do on the footpath, so why not just regulate the scooters so the top speed is say 15 kmph. I can’t imagine anyone inconvenienced that much as surely they aren’t used often for long distance travel. So if it takes you 15 min to travel to the bus stop or supermarket instead of 8 min is that such a big deal.

  2. Joggers regularly travel faster than walkers and that mix requires some common sense and social responsibility.

    While deliberate body ramming of other pedestrians is rare, no doubt a charge of assault with intent to injure is an option
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    Scooters have used footpaths for generations. and can provide cause for concern that we manage usually.

    A speed limit is not imposed for joggers nor foot powered scooters and prams so it would seem the battery powered scooters bring a new concern because of higher speed capability.

    So speed is a concern as it is on the road.

    A speed limit response seems simple enough.

    How about 8kph max speed on footpath and a penalty of 8 hours in public stock for transgressors, but with a limit to the velocity of any rotten tomatoes thrown.

  3. It may well be against the law to cycle on a footpath but this has not prevented the Christchurch City Council, ever alert to saving money, from installing so called “shared footpaths” all over our car crazy city.

    Monkey see, monkey do…

    You all wanted the neo-liberal dream.

    Now suck on it…

    1. JS Bark: “Christchurch City Council, ever alert to saving money, from installing so called “shared footpaths” all over our car crazy city.”

      When we lived there 25 years ago, ChCh was ideal for getting around by bike. Flat, nice wide streets, no need to bike on the footpaths. Just avoid Riccarton Rd….

      There was no need for Council to do anything. But clearly the biking zealots have invaded that area as well, busily persuading Council that it needs to fix what ain’t broken.

  4. I’m dreading the arrival of these damn things in Wellington. If ever a city were unsuited to bikes – and these e-contraptions – it is Wellington. Not that it’s slowed down any the biking zealots. To coin a phrase…

      1. John W: “Wellington is also unsuited to cars which fill our street day and night.”

        Public transport in Wellington can’t get you everywhere. Given the topography here, and the very dodgy weather, cars are the next best thing. We just need somewhere to park ’em. We need Council zealots removing public parks from the CBD like we need toothache.

  5. In ‘Mars Attacks’ faced with a similar implacable invasion Jack Nicholson asked;

    “Why can’t we all just get along?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQUbbSQP_I

    After decades of sharing the footpath with pushchairs and runners and cyclists and tricycles and skateboards and kids of every age and level of skill on skates.

    The old curmudgeon in me has to ask;

    What is it, with these things?

    Where has this startling new phenomenon sprung from?

    In first place must be the revolution in battery technology which makes these vehicles existence possible.

    Secondly the computer and smart phone revolution and applications (aps), which allow the business model

    Thirdly and which can’t be ignored, is the fun factor.

    There is the undeniable environmental benefit vs the private motor car.

    There is the convenience, no wasting time driving around in circles searching for a parking space.

    The big problem to me seems to be the speed, the powerful lithium battery technology allows for previously unheard of speeds for such vehicles. 27Kph is way way to high.

    It is faster that the average speed of an adult at full sprint.

    According to Google, “The fastest among us can sprint 100m at a speed of 15.9 mph”

    Have you ever seen an adult sprinting down a city footpath at full tilt.

    Every single time there are collisions, with people getting knocked aside.

    “The greater the speed the bigger the mess” as the traffic cop on TV says.

    A regulatory mandatory speed limiter on every electric hire scooter.

    Seems to be the obvious answer.

    John W suggested 8kph

    Duncan suggested 15kph

    I would go with John W’s 8kph, Not so sure about Duncan’s 15kph, a running adult doing the same speed and collisions are a certainty.

    Should we ban these things from the footpaths?

    For eons people and vehicles have shared the carriageway.

    Look at the earliest silent footage of our cities. Cars, horses, trams, all unhurriedly intermingling without any apparent road rules.

    Speed seems to be the key. Separate carriageways where not really needed until the speed of modern cars required it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q5Nur642BU

  6. You cant interfere with the making of a dollar Chris! The mighty Market comes first!

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