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  1. I reckon this place will be OK. The Israel-Palestine calamity is what I call a global level issue, meaning all Western governments toe the party line as dictated to by the leader of the West and the so-called free world, the USA. Israel-Palestine, Ukraine-Russia and Neoliberalism are other global level issues. There are at least two more, that I can see. Point being, this place is on the right side -the State side – of most of these global level issues, so you are more useful to the State than not.

    Having said that, unlike all the other global level issues, this issue really, really highlights just how broken the entire Western political system, and its joined at the hip, rather than adversarial, mainstream media machine, really is. Still, in my experience, the issues that really, really matter to the State are the issues where all sides of that given issue, are not open for discussion. So, this issue, is a long way from this point, thus far. Food for thought.

  2. State support for genocide abroad requires state repression at home. Simple as that.

    For a long time the New Zealand state has supported the genocide in Gaza, with silence and inaction.
    But as state support for the genocide is being increaseingly challenged by civil sodiety, state support fot the genocide becomes more open,
    The genocide in Gaza has reached what Al Jazeera calls its “final solution”, open public revulsion, has to be countered with open state repression.

  3. I hope we do not follow UK and Australia in attacking pro Palestinian groups that do not support Hamas As a person of British heritage it grieves me to say France has made a brave move to support a Palestine Nation

    1. Who’s defending humanity from the monsters of ‘israel’, Trevor- by killing them? Is it Britain, or France? Or is it the democratically elected government of Palestine, Hamas?

  4. I am really puzzled. What on earth is happening in the world that might, possibly, cause people to hate Jews?
    If only we could find out what that is, and stop it, it would surely curb antisemitism?

    1. There is no evidence of anyone hating jews in New Zealand. If we simply shut down genocide cheerleading organizations which organize false flag operations like the Community Security Trust and JCNZ, there wouldn’t be any synagogue fires or graffiti outside synagogues either.

    2. Jews have been hated at different times by all Nations going back to the Roman’s. Their success has led to envy and the desire to move them on and take their property .

      1. Context is required here Trevor, In biblical times Usury was against religious teachings until Judaism changed the rules to suit them by making Usury permissible to be charged against Goy (Non Jews) only. Going to a system designed by the moneylenders caused much misery and poverty with the lenders using dubious tactics well documented in history.
        Jews as a general rule do not charge fellow Jews interest.

  5. The contagion of state repression in support of the genocide in Gaza is spreading around the world.

    George Monbiot calls this our ‘Spartacus moment’.

    Sharing This Video Could Get You 14 Years in Prison
    Double Down News
    875K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkVO4F_38I

    635,677 views Jun 27, 2025
    This NEW Law is TERRIFYING & Will SILENCE Us All

    Transcript:

    @0:00 minutes:
    Making this video could get me 14 years in prison.
    If you share this video potentially, you could get 14 years in prison as well because this video expresses support for Palestine action.

    @0:13 minutes:
    You can blow the limbs off a child. Fine.
    You can directly and deliberately target journalists, and academics.
    You can blow up entire families.
    You can target people who are queuing for food aid.
    You can do what the hell you like, and you will not be condemned by the government.
    But spray a bit of paint on some war planes on some weapons of war, and that paint, that becomes the true weapon of war.
    That becomes the true aggression.
    That becomes, in Yvette Cooper’s words;
    “The disgraceful attack”
    Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary of the United Kingdom, has never used those words, “A disgraceful attack” about any of the things that the Israeli government has done to the Palestinians, every day it murders, it maims, in total defiance of international law and she has never once used the term, “disgraceful attack” about any of that. Or any term like it. in fact far from it, she’s happy to be photographed with the Israeli ambassador [just as our Foreign Minister Winston Peters does].
    Great mates, great mates with the representative of a government who is right at this moment committing genocide it could not be more blatant. it could not be more obvious.
    Netanyahu will not be satisfied until every Palestinian in Gaza is either dead,disabled or displaced and yet he is still being supported by the UK [and NZ] government……

    @14:41 minutes:
    …This I believe needs to be our, I’m Spartacus moment, where one after another we stand up and say I support Palestine action i support Palestine action.
    If tens of thousands of us do that, well what are they going to do?
    Are they going to arrest and jail us all as sympathizers with terrorism, just by saying that we support a nonviolent protest movementnare they going to put us all innhandcuffs and walk us all away? Well let’s find out.
    i support Palestine Action and I want you to say the same……

    I, Patrick J. O’Dea, support Palestine Action.

  6. Same as it ever was. The West will never deliver relief to Palestinians. Because it means confronting our own complicity in the Jewish Holocaust and the 2000 years or persecution that preceded it across all of Europe.
    Change for Palestinians will have to come from somewhere else.

  7. Secrecy doesn’t even get close. It’s actually gutlessness? The CoC is the most pathetic, corrupt and dishonest bunch of “imposters” this country has ever put into power. It has taken far too long for the world to view the Israeli/Palestinian situation in a humane way and still not looking like being a permanent fix. I also support Palestine!
    Just another example of this totally corrupt CoC = Glenn McConnell’s article in Stuff today showing that the CoC’s claim of ‘reducing public servants’ is yet another HUGE LIE. Since they took office, the numbers have crept up by 121 following the 2023 election. Oh the sutpid, empty-headed amongst you, just keep voting for the Right and watch the NZ, so many of us love, get swallowed up and fade away. If that’s what you want, continue to keep your heads in the sand, your eyes closed and your ears blocked, but don’t moan when it all turns to custard………….! And CoC leave TDB alone – it’s our only unabridged source of ‘real/honest’ news.

  8. The Genocide in Gaza wouldn’t be possible without the complicity of the US and America’s allies
    As the genocide in Gaza nears its penultimate gory final solution, as global public revulsion mounts, Israel’s allies like the UK, the US. Aus. and NZ as these governments are forced out in to the open in their support for this genocide, it becomes necessary for them to actively crush anyone who dares challenge their support for this genocide with repressive measures.

    Wikipedia
    The Free Encyclopedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki ›
    Gaza_genocide

    According to a United Nations Special Committee, Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, and other experts, Israel is committing genocide in Gaza against the Palestinians during its ongoing invasion and bombardment as part of the Gaza war.[41][42]
    The acts of genocide described by experts and human rights organisations include large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births…..
    …..Most of the victims are civilians,[44][45] of whom at least 50% are women and children.[46][47] Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are among the highest.[48] Thousands more dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed buildings.[45][49] A study in The Lancet estimated 64,260 deaths due to traumatic injuries by June 2024, while noting a larger potential death toll when “indirect” deaths are included.[50][19] As of January 2025, a comparable estimate for traumatic injury deaths would be around 80,000.[14] The number of injured is greater than 100,000;[20] Gaza has the most child amputees per capita in the world.[51]
    An enforced Israeli blockade has heavily contributed to starvation and the threat of famine in Gaza. Projections show 100% of the population is experiencing “high levels of acute food insecurity”, with about half a million people experiencing catastrophic levels as of July 2025.[43] Early in the conflict, Israel cut off Gaza’s water and electricity supply. As of May 2024, 84% of its health centers have been destroyed or damaged.[52] Israel has also destroyed numerous culturally significant buildings, including all of Gaza’s 12 universities, 80% of its schools,[53][54] and numerous mosques, churches, museums, and libraries.[55] Over 1.9 million Palestinians—85% of Gaza’s population—have been forcibly displaced…..

    No wonder that our government is having to turn to repression to continue its support for this genocide

  9. The COC is starting its own form of genocide right here in NZ .We have a bad track record in human rights as the abuse in care enquiry showed .Interesting how quickly we have forgotten that and have enabled the COC to sweep it under the rug .Before that we attempted to eliminate all Maori from the country from 1840 till today .Now we have a renewed push to start that elimination again but fortunately there are a large group of non Maori who will not allow that to happen .

  10. Thank you Pat O’D for the Wikipedia info and stats. They make you want to weep. Hard to fathom how any human being can treat other humans with such brutality and impunity? It does bring one back to the big question – ‘how can anyone, with moral fibre, knowingly continue to back Israel’s genocide?’ And Gordon, we all need to keep reminding NZ’ers that our Maori now own only 5.5% of NZ land!

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