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  1. hear hear . Rock on fortress Aotearoa . Maybe we should go shopping for Russian military equipment , those Kalibre seem effective , or , maybe discounted NATO equipment captured in Ukraine , seems to be a lot of it .

  2. Well done Martyn. How else do we stop exploitation of the environment (fisheries, undersea minerals etc)? How else do we help those suffering the disasters that result from what ‘Peace movement Aotearoa’ calls a rapidly worsening climate catastrophe?

    You are surrounded by those that believe slogans and kindness will turn around the ‘Chinese Fishing Militia’ or tanks. Those that believe only the political ‘right’ care about stopping bullies or resource exploitation – even though National ran the NZDF into the ground with ‘the civilianisation project’ and budget cuts. Those that will call you racist for mentioning the actions of China – regardless of your position on other East Asian countries such as Japan, Taiwan, S.Korea etc. Those that cannot even cope with talk about how to improve personal safety on the streets – that will trigger ‘victim-blaming’ accusations. The “Passivist” movement, modern ‘bulletproof’ Hauhau (Pai Marire). Slogans didn’t stop bullets for them either.

    Good luck.

    1. The world needs to allow Japan (and Germany) to build up their defensive military forces to counteract the Chinese, Russian and North Korean threats in Asia/Pacific. Similarly Singapore, Sth Korea, Philippines and other western countries (yes Aotearoa) need to up their game.

  3. I’d like to see some evidence that China is going to invade Aotearoa.

    If that evidence is from the the USA, then no thanks. It will be bullshit, as usual from them.

  4. OK make it 3%!
    Regardless we certainly need to defend our territorial waters and support friends who cannot fully defend theirs (eg the Cooks).
    What would that look like?

    > A squadron of long range marine patrol aircraft that can launch long range anti shipping missiles.

    >A squadron of medium range fisheries patrol/light attack aircraft. These could twin props rather like the ov-10 Bronco. These could also provide close air support for our troops if we were drawn into an overseas conflict.

    > A naval taskforce capable supporting an invasion of a Pacific island for peace making purposes (i.e. stop a political/tribal genocide) or supporting a relief operation in the event of a natural disaster. This would need to include our 2 frigates with their ASW choppers, our nice new logistics ship, a helicopter assault ship with capacity for 500 troops and a squadron of armed helicopters for troop transport and close air support.

    All this would integrate nicely with our Aussie partners and would be adaptable for both peace making/peace keeping operations as well are normal peacetime business.

  5. Couldn’t agree more Martyn . . re the comments on here though you are preaching to (mostly) the wrong crowd.

  6. Come on Martin a large military will want one thing – to go to war. The military is not the answer to the climate crisis, if anything, it’s making it worse. The US military is the worlds number one polluter.

    Time for a rethink.

    Time to look towards peon based solutions because our leaders have failed, our economy is screwed, and were all dead if we run with a top down approach to this mess.

    Time for a change.

    1. You’re like the umpteenth military expert to say the magic words “America” as if it’s supposed to shield New Zealand from Chinese gunboat deplomacy. You’re just not worth listening to.

  7. Even we spend 10% of our GDP on military, we cannot defend NZ for even half a day if China really attacked us. I stand by Helen Clark’s decision. Instead of wasting money on military equipment we should spend the money on our teachers, nurses and police.

  8. I’m still trying to work out how DS is going to propose paying for this after he cuts the budget by seven billion dollars…

  9. I have to agree. A squadron of F-35s is a good idea. Then Australia could see that we were pulling our weight. After all we have been exporting our best pilots to the RAF and RAAF since the Skyhawks went.

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