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  1. So when has the GCSB done anything worthwhile and in the public interest?

    As NZ is one of America’s bitches this is Xenophobia at its worst.

    1. Huawei revenue: $92bln
      Apple revenue: $230bln
      Samsung revenue: $58bln

      Huawei profit: $8.6 billion
      Apple profit: $61 billion
      Samsung profit: $15bln

      Apple doesn’t compete in the low end segment Huawei operates in. If you want a cheap android phone, there are a dozen different offerings from other companies starting with Samsung.

      Claiming New Zealanders are threatened by Huawei is like claiming Mercedes is threatened by Mitsubishi. Huawei competes with other budget android manufacturers like Nokia and Motorola, as well as budget offerings from Samsung and LG, it doesn’t compete with Apple. Only Samsung(and occasionally Google) really competes with Apple.

      Most people who are sufficiently literate enough to read the privacy agreements in cellphone circles gasp at the stuff they say they’re allowed to do. But I know there’s a difference between corporations using my data to sell me stuff and the Chinese government wanting information to exact its own ends. No one should have to tolerate mass surveillance but here we are.

  2. The NSA (and through them the GCSB) want to be able to spy on all of our communications. Using Chinese equipment makes this more difficult for them and easier for the Chinese. We should insist on open source equipment from any supplier to level the playing field and making it more difficult for all spies to lay secret backdoors.

  3. we need to stand up to these Countries we have seen what happened with the sub standard steel used on the Huntly bridge /bypass work
    the trouble is national have been in the Chinese governments pocket too much its all about money to these people.
    We need to show some spine unlike our last grovelling pm and his ilk

  4. So we’re expected to take the word of the GCSB unquestioned??

    Yeah, nah.

    Not after they were caught a few years ago illegally spying on 88 new zealanders. Trust, no. Close scrutiny, most definitely.

  5. So the NZ secret service, which is part of the 5eyes club, that is already known to circumvent domestic privacy laws by spying on each others citizens, has banned Spark from using Huawei equipment. Isn’t the NZ secret service slightly conflicted? Are they that intent on having NZ citizens indirectly spied on without warrants, and having higher 5g charges for phone users, that they will repeat concerns of the 5eyes club, who operate a giant database in Utah holding untold number of NZ citizens data. The obvious concern with the Huawei equipment, is that it’s more secure, and not less secure, making it more difficult for the 5eyes club to intercept, unless they have access to the tics lawful interception patch in. I’m sure Huawei would sign a secret service waiver, allowing any information to be released. Sorry for calling it, the way I see it, but unless the NZ secret service can provide proof, of better caliber than Sadams wmd proof, that they have come up with themselves, and not just cut and pasted from the 5eyes club, then I suggest the NZ secret service has been pulling the wool over Mr Little. I’m sure Mr Little has access to technical expertise, to analyze any proof provided, or will it be the case that when actual proof is asked for, it will be shown to be as much of a mirage, as the wmd’s were. And as a trained lawyer, he will see the privacy work arounds that have been carefully placed in NZ spying laws, such as not having a proper definition of private communication, and not giving the Inspector General sufficient powers. You can’t keep giving in to paranoid secret service junkies who are addicted to snooping more and more on NZ citizens, and becoming irrational when they can’t get their fix. The NZ secret service needs the maturity to realize that they are not Elloy, and NZ citizens are not Morlocks, and the book 1984, was not an instruction manual. You can join the dots. First Australia legislated voip backdoors, then Arjen Kamphius, then false flag attacks on AnneMarie Brady, and now the Huawei crap. If the secret service really needs to know which hand citizens use to wipe their bums, then their addiction is in dire need of therapy and rehab, and the first step is to acknowledge they have a problem. It’s obvious that privacy online is receding, but it’s only a matter of time before every word breathed into a telephone in NZ, will be identified by artificial intelligence, and then recorded by the 5eyes club, for the good of the nation. That’s probably why the secret service headquarters in Wellington is being rebuilt to house the vast increase in electronics, after the original building, had NO obvious damage from the Kaikoura earthquake. Such omnipotent panopticism, will do wonders for collective mental health. I can’t wait…

  6. How does the GCSB decision impact on the NZ-China fta?? I would have thought China would have a strong case to take to the WTO. Don’t forget, it was NZ that pursued a fta with China, not the other way round. Now we’re blocking them from tendering for a telco contract??

    Is this the freee market in operation is it? Righto, got it.

    If China abandons the fta with us, let’s not forget who provoked who.

    (By the way, I hold no truck with the Bejjing regime. Their one party state is odious, to put it mildly. And they should get the feck out of Tibet.)

    1. When China joined the WTO in 2001 America enjoyed supremacy at sea. Americas glass boats and missile destroyers could sail between the Chinese coast and Tawain, after China joined the WTO America could no longer bully Beijing into trading how America wanted.

      Now that Beijing can no longer be bullied by Washington, Washington and its Pentagon dogs view China as its number one threat. Yet the Washinton consensus forget themselves, and grow over confident.

      In 2001 no one thought China would go through the most amazing economic transformation in all of history. In 2018 China is now the equal of the Untied States of America.

      1. Thumbs up, Sam.

        On top of which China holds US$1.2 trillion of US government debt bonds. If the Chinese want to play hard ball, they’ve got the ammo to do it. What would the Yanks do if China called in that debt?

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