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    1. Good link realist. I did not read no right turn before posting my comment…have been pushing for re-nationalisation for years. We do not have to write long detailed posts on this, the facts and figures are out there for much of this.

      Power infrastructure should be a basic national resource for all, but it is not. An example…in the Far North where I live there is a geothermal power station at Ngawha Springs, it has enough capacity to power the Far North, but–the power generated goes into the national grid because the local lines are not able to utilise it.
      So when the deadly “Pylon power outage” happened recently we could not access the national grid to access that power.

  1. The artificial power market created by National–bludging on hydro power built by previous generations and taxpayers–was always mere free market exploitation, based around price gouging. The gentailers have very little new infrastructure to show for all those years or even keeping up adequate maintenance.

    And let’s not forget Rio Tinto and that accursed polluting smelter–using a huge amount of power at bargain basement prices and sending the profits offshore. They should be sent packing and the power allocated to the national grid.

    Power generation and lines supply needs to be returned to full public ownership asap–without compensation if the retailers do not go quietly. Has anyone noticed that Masturbation Jones is only advocating for corporates and business, what about people that cannot afford to turn the heaters on and wrap up in blankets and hot water bottles? Fossil Gas is not the answer! The CoC vandals really do have a fundamentalist screw loose, Natzo politicians it seems were no more exempt from the online craziness than the rest of the population.

    1. The aluminum from Rio Tinto gets top dollar as it is the greenest aluminum in the World .At the same time it gives 1000 plus great wages in jobs and service jobs.

  2. The intended result of the Key government .Another National led disaster .Imagine what water will look like in 10 years .
    GREED ON GREED More money for the elite and too bad for the rest of NZ as they dont donate to natactnz

  3. Can someone more knowledgeable than me, do the calculation to work out the amount of generating capacity available from covering NZ home roofs with solar? Multiply the average roof area, by number of houses, by the amount of power that can be generated from rooftop solar. If the coalition came up with a fit for purpose mechanism for solar to be put on roofs nationwide, at no cost to the housholder, but paid for over time by the power generated, it would address the problematic lack of generating capacity, which is only going to get worse with population growth and the electric vehicle charger rollout, promised in the election. Perhaps all new builds could be 100% solar tile roofed. Surely the Greens would give cross party support to any such initiative?

    1. Dick it would cost around 45 billion to fit every house in NZ with solar and a battery at 25k per house which is todays prices .But as we would be doing so many I would think we would get that down to 15 per house without too much trouble .l think the power companies would be unhappy that we all owned our own power generation .
      The big boys would soon drop prices .
      A battery would negate having to be fleeced by the sell to the grid price .
      Hope that answers your question some what .
      No doubt the negative nellies will be out in force .A couple of months ago in queensland they produced more solar than they needed .

  4. This government obviously has the motto that a profit today is more important than having a decent environment to live in tomorrow. Your description of the power companies being a scam it totally correct since the market is set to ensure everyone gets paid the price of the most expensive producer there is no incentive to have a competitive market that allows consumers to have reliable affordable power. Bring back the NZED without the current idiots in charge would be a good first step.

  5. A basic design failure in the construction of New Zealand’s hydro-electric system means that the hydro dams & lakes aren’t big enough to avoid or even mitigate the risk of a “dry year”.

    The usual “on-the-cheap” mindset comes back to bite an ungrateful nation on it’s collective bum.

    1. The usual “on-the-cheap” mindset comes back to bite an ungrateful nation on it’s collective bum.

      And yet you voted the hapless Willis in who wants Toyota ferries?

  6. But doesn’t the free market & competition lead to better service & cheaper prices for the consumer? Kool-aid anyone?

    1. Of course all the competion leads to better service. Twenty power companies competing to see who has the best call center for explaining more than twenty different “confuse them with prices” pricing schemes.

      We are so spoilt with electricity choice. Do you want a pink website or green website with your electrons?

      Just in case the elderly are too confused and can’t afford the additional cost of all that choice the power companies are given the ‘winter bailout energy payment’.

  7. There are 3 big solar energy plants planned for Canterbury area and all are held up by environmental claims .I do not have enough knowledge to say if the claims are legitimate but just because it’s Green tech does not mean it is Green .The same applies to hydro.
    Geothermal should be used more .Japanese technology means the depth drilled now is far greater than now

  8. This eh!, Wai, Your, cone to a massive fuck up, that your cone ice cream melted, without a chance.

  9. Base, sell our market, we are market free corporations in a land open to profit opertune and invets what this place, down the end of our north end planet sp0-here, heaps of exploit wealth to invest, why , these people allow.

  10. Dam we were talking about this in labour party as far back as 2010 that why the policy direction was geared towards value added or trying to move up the value chain within our current resources the problem is simple national always national

  11. Some pointers from a professional engineer (me):
    The Max Bradford semi privatisation was a stupid idea right from the start. This is a tiny country with a tiny population that didn’t warrant splitting up ECNZ. That said, I’ve done quite nicely with my Mercury shares, LOL.
    With the exception of hydro and some geothermal, renewables aren’t really low cost producers. On paper they look good until we factor in the cost of grid stabilisation using batteries or pump storage. A key reason for the current high cost of electricity is reliance on the erratic supply from wind and solar, plus low lake levels.
    The long term fix, assuming we rule out carbon emitters is either more hydro (there are some sites on the West Coast but good luck getting iwi to agree to that) or nuclear. A couple of SMRs could be up and running within 5 years if we didn’t fuck around with the consenting process, but good luck with that too!

    1. You been proven wrong on too many occasions Andrew to be credible.
      A self proclaimed engineer with Lego blocks is not legitimate.

  12. Industry running short of power. Increase residential electricity demand by an additional 25% via recruiting a 1 million immigrants in a decade, there are predictable consequences. Its justs what happens when there is no economic plan (
    or business plan for the nation.

    1. correct the extra million is the cause of most of the problems at this time .Health system built for 3 million now expected to look after 5 million schools built for 3 million in the same boat and on it goes .roads ,water ,sewage ,housing the list just goes on and now we are headed for record unemployment in the near future .The silver lining maybe the record numbers being driven off shore by this usless government

  13. As a guy who built windfarms in NSW , South Australia and California let me say no foreigner will invest in NZ renewables while you have delays under the RMA. It makes NZ comparatively unattractive. Except if you are a lawyer getting paid for hourly delays.

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