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  1. what about the Maori women that had their babies taken in the 60s & 70s due to social beliefs (not having a father there) this is before cyfs. I know of cases where their children were taken and they have never ever seen their kids and are still looking for them. There so much badness and its all the nasty state policies and those who oversaw them. And who mostly worked for the state back then and who got the jobs and delivered the nasty policies back then it was mostly pakeha people due to racism we didn’t get those jobs then and the damage that has been done. This whole issue opens up a can of worms about our governments departments ability to do what they are suppose to do.

    1. Pakeha unmarried mothers had their babies taken for adoption in those times as well. It was a stifling religious and moral judgement just as much as a racial one. All of which we should be ashamed of.

  2. We were foster parent’s for a time, including for a time a young Maori youth for his last year in State Care. He had been taken from his mother as a baby. It was an entirely justified uplift. It no doubt saved his life. But anyone who thinks a life time in care under this State Agency (whatever its name) is good for a child is simply very very wrong.
    Vote to double the budget, vote to pay and train foster parents, volunteer as a foster parent…then the pro mass uplift crowd might have an argument…but meantime..nope…the best course of action if at all possible, is to keep children with whanau, supervised with ‘plans in place’.
    ‘ex parte’ may or maynot be legal..but I know for sure its morally inexcusable.

  3. you keep banging on this drum but how much experience have you had with some of the sad chaotic lives that need some of this intervention? Do you really want kids to stay with dangerous chaos? Chaos is the only way to describe some of these lives.
    No steady home.
    No proper diet.
    Alcohol.
    P.
    Synthetic cannabis.
    Opiates.
    Better you get off your office chair and go for a wander amongst the lumpen proletariat. It can be overwelmingly sad and very depressing.

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