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  1. So first the Commissioner implies that family problems are a ‘Maori’ issue (I’m pretty sure non-Maori use the agency) then solves the problem by suggesting Orange Tamariki should be run by these same ‘Maori’. Does he mean run by some talentless bureaucrats who are already embedded in this putrid public service system who see OT as another opportunity to make money off the country’s most vulnerable (with or without the waiata)? Would the Commissionerr also like to segregate every other agency in this country into Brown and non Brown units? As someone with Maori ancestry this has got absolutely nothing to do with me. Zilch. But like other citizens with Maori and non Maori ancestry I do pay for the Commissioners salary.

  2. Surely we have some talented brown people to run OT, whitey’s do not understand the intricacies of the Maori World, let Maori’s look after Maori’s and Whitey’s look after Whitey’s. Like John Tamihere states Maori’s are the best people to solve Maori problems. Maori were a sophisticated race b4 the White Man and the Muskets arrived in the early 1800’s.

    1. Hongi Ika: “…. let Maori’s look after Maori’s and Whitey’s look after Whitey’s.”

      What you propose here is segregation, just as used to be the case in apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia. Pre-civil rights-era southern states of the US, too. Write it into legislation, it’s apartheid.

      It’s discrimination based on skin colour; my generation successfully fought against it. How utterly bizarre that a Maori of all people would suggest such a system be introduced into this country, which is a modern, representative democracy.

      I do not think that you have any understanding of what you’re advocating for here.

      1. Exactly, what is being proposed by some Maori is separate development, which is the same term coined by white South.Africans and is apartheid. The only sector of society to have an adverse outcome if this policy if enacted will be Maori.

  3. You’ve got to be real careful. As I’ve seen first hand some of these kids are in a living hell with their so-called “caregivers” regardless of race and always involving drugs and alcohol.

    There are some genuinely good staff at OT doing a very difficult job few would ever want to do and yes OT is nowhere near perfect. And always very easy to put the boot into. But any outside lobbying and pressure that causes just one of them to hesitate to remove a child from the fire is an irreversible tragedy for that child.

    Theres not a deep state political conspiracy going on, just extremely fucked up humans who couldn’t care for a sewer rat much less children.

  4. It’s pretty racist to presume that everyone managed by this organisation is Maori.

    Is calling for this this designed to be supportive of the organisation subsequently contracting out work to Maori providers – those who believe in wrap around services for support to Maori families.

    If this organisation allows children to be killed it is blamed, if it takes children away it is blamed. The beauty of letting a Maori provider do it, is that no one can call the failures institutional racism (and so the white middle class can wash it hands of culpability – apart from neo-liberalism and endemic inequality).

    Whether Maori families will do better or not, it will transfers more jobs to Maori.

    So it’s sort of inveitable, without any guarantee it will make anything better by itself.

    1. What a load of wellington public service apologist bullshit SPC.

      OT is a neoliberal experiment in welfare, the point is to remove children spy it doesn’t cost the state downstream. Those callous vicious values are wellington at their worst, Māori values that actually serve the child and the family are far preferable than wellington neoliberal experiments, and they would see ve white children far better than the current neoliberal model.

  5. One of my friends raises her mokopuna on around one fortieth (1/40th) of the:
    $12,000.00/week which the head of the O.T. public ‘service’ earns.
    This is an approximation.

  6. I have had personal experience of a number of social workers connected with this agency. They are there for all the right reasons, really care about the kids, doing the toughest job, having to put up with a lot of bullshit from the community. We are lucky to have these people.
    I am afraid the issues arent the uplifts. I don’t believe for a moment these happen for no good reason.
    There was a child murdered recently and during the court case it emerged that OT had had contact with the family two weeks before the she was murdered. Its real dammed if do, dammed if don’t.
    By all means let Maori run it. That is not going to magically solve the problem of these childrens tragic lives. it could improve it. It could make it worse. A bit of a risk really.

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