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  1. Experience of flax roots sustainability?
    Burning 50% of New Zealand?
    More bird extinctions than after white settlers arrived including Moa.
    Biggest dairy farmers in Canterbury.
    The noble savage routine is bullshit, people of all races experience the same human traits like love, happiness, anger or greed.
    Co governance is an un mandated racial power grab for the tribal elites.

    1. Co governance is not a Maori initiative or policy. It is John Keys policy. Why? Because selling income producing assets for cash = bad.

      We expect the master servant relationship that our mother will always whisper sweet nothings in our ears while making our bed, fixing lunch and breakfast.

      So when we don’t get that master servant relationship in other areas it is exactly that rejection that makes Wanabe alpha masculine beta orbiters lash out with emotional trauma.

    2. “The noble savage routine is bullshit, people of all races experience the same human traits like love, happiness, anger or greed.
      Co governance is an un mandated racial power grab for the tribal elites. ”
      I agree with all the above and would add demonstrated competence is the only relevant metric required of those in power . Moreover these tribal elites don’t represent this ngati urban and I object to the presumption that they do represent the majority of Maori .

      1. Agree Ra. Its not Maori vs Pakeha, it is unsanctioned elites vs democracy. And they do it by tapping into a Maori victimhood story which is really disempowering to Maori.
        Maori have experienced many past wrongs and have been victimised but where we are today is due to politics, greed and Ardern’s hubris.

        And can we quit calling it by the Governments Euphemism of ‘Co Governance’. Co Governance is something I saw a lot of when I was a kid and my Dad worked at Maori Affairs. He’d front up and say the Govts decided you can have X for your new Marae but you cant have the Y that you asked for too. Then the hapu or sub tribe would sit down with him and together they would find a way in which it could all be achieved, the government listening to Maori on the ground, the community stepping up (often providing land or labour or something to make it work) and my Dad ensuring everyone got as much as they could and everyone went away happy with a quality outcome.

        That is Co Governance as is the Whanganui River, what the Govt is euphemistically labelling co governance is actually something else. Read He PuaPua. Particularly read the original before it got redacted about Dec 2020.

    1. I fail to see how making racist remarks, based in large part on ignorance of human history in all its glory could pass for “informed comment”.. This succeeds only in reminding me what a nasty bunch of arrogant bigoted blowhards the descendants of the British invasion still are.. And before you fall off your horse, I am descended from french/English aristocratic blood lines that go back two millennia, so I am qualified to make the above statement..

      1. My bloodlines also go back many millennia, though since we we’re definitely not “aristocratic” I don’t know who they were earlier than the late 1600s.
        I wouldn’t be too proud of aristocrat ancestry; the original nobles were just the biggest thugs in the village.

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