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  1. Labour could pass legislation to ensure that only citizens are able to vote. It would be a sane move, and give them the greatest chance of defeating National in 2023. Not to do so gives Labour a snowball’s chance in Hell.

    1. Yep. Voting should only be NZ citizens and they should have to have lived in NZ for at least half the time of the previous election term, as it is too easy to skew results in a small country like NZ, that allows so many people who don’t seem to be contributing much and in many cases the opposite (Tarrant) to reside here with their own agenda and are not voting in the best interests of NZ.

      Labeen were more popular when the borders where shut and they were mostly only polling NZ citizens who actually lived here.

    2. RB.
      I think I know what you’re implying but be careful what you ask for.
      I and many of my (European) friends continue to be PERMANENT Residents in NZ rather than Citizens as a result of the passport laws in their countries of origin.
      Many of us have lived, worked and paid tax for 30+ years and most of us are inclined to vote left.

      1. And of course China.

        Too many people voting in NZ who do not live in NZ full time and are not citizens of NZ but can easily vote here.

        Pick a country to be a citizen of, and only vote in one country.

        We see from polls who is popular in NZ when the borders are closed and suddenly not, when borders are opened.

  2. Jacinda Ardern’s determination to destroy the Office of the Children’s Commissioner proves for once and or all that she was never concerned about children, and that she is little more than a bull shitter, a dangerous female, or both.

  3. Labour have done more than most to alienate younger voters.

    They have nailed the coffin lid shut on aspirations of home ownership unless the bank of mum and dad come to their rescue. I know this from comments from 20 something’s over the past few years how Labour turned a bad situation into an impossible one.

    And I can’t see younger voters coming back!

    1. So with house prices actually falling you need to borrow less but with higher interest rates servicing the debt is more challenging . National have made it very clear with their promise to reduce the bright line requirements and reinstall interest deductibility that they will do everything they can to drive house prices up. What do the 20 somethings think about that?

      1. Put it this way Wheel, they voted Labour who apparently promised to take this housing crisis very seriously but then watched as record price rise after record price rise catapulted housing unaffordability into the stratosphere. Jacinda went all invisible and nothing to see here. Labour were National! Just a better more convincing Real Estate sales pitch.

        House prices are falling because of some poor economic management by Labour, not because they meant it this way!

        No point voting these charlatans back in!

  4. Your analysis on the Tauranga by-election is partially correct. But you are ignoring the fact that the Greens and Maori parties didn’t run candidates. If anything that makes Tinettis and Labours result, even worse.

  5. It seems to me that Labour has delivered us up like a flavoursome meal to the wealthy bigwigs who can direct trade and prices around the world or apply sanctions. Wouldn’t that make a country with some desire for nationhood and its own culture, some hostility? But we don’r have that, we moddeled ouselves on Britain with some endearing differences, and now on USA with less propensity to be endearing. I think our leaders are lost in the higher realms of venality and fill their thoughts with what is expedient, and have signed away so much right to differ from the wishes of the wealthy nations that they are little more than puppets, paid to keep the show running and appease whatever group can’t be inveigled. Better find a group of people with whom you feel similar values and perception as others are too deeply committed or haven’t mobile enough
    minds to find their route and be resigned to what can’t be changed, like the alcoholic’s daily vow.

    1. Labour’s 2020 vote was more of an anti-Collins vote than anything else.

      Sadly, it seems that the public is moving to the right, and the only realistic option is to vote to keep ACT out.

  6. Why all this talk of General Elections? It’s over a year away: plenty of time for Labour to shoot themselves in the foot a few more times.
    Sadly it seems that every generation has to learn the same old lesson: put in a left wing government and bitterly regret it.
    National hasn’t even started campaigning yet. Both they and ACT have significant war chests for next year. It will be a rout. Hopefully.

    1. National and ACT will slash wages, sell off state housing and impose US style healthcare.

      It seems that you care more about profit more than wellbeing.

      A country that doesn’t have a focus on profit will have a healthy population, no homelessness and clean air and water.

  7. Let’s instead address the assualt on traditional family values, the assualt on marriage. Something has gone terribly wrong. There are so many sit down dinner tables full of single woman and no men.

    We the left are supposed supposed to create “choices!!!” We liberate.

    The one house hold income is almost dead dead and dudes dudes mowe lawns so it’s still a 70-30 household choir split.

    To adapt to this crazy world of “choices” has to include at the least subsidised childcare or a range of solutions, publicly funded universal childcare or what ever.

  8. Can’t agree with the by-election analysis.

    In 2017 National had a prominent Simon Bridges as their candidate. By comparison Uffindell was a complete unknown and someone who didn’t exactly exude charisma. Plus the Greens and Maori Party did not contest the by-election. National also had a stronger ACT vote to contend with.

    The result was a trouncing for the Labour party and the political left.

  9. So in your scenario Chris, the electorate lurches from one extreme to the other. I don’t believe that there will be as much volatility as you predict. There would have to be a massive swing in every electorate for the right to gain power. Luzon will lose votes as soon as he releases any policy. The vast majority of inflation is imported which the government can’t control. The UK is in a much worse state. There is a massive rail strike there at the moment. Their gas prices have gone through the roof. Brexit has made their inflation much worse.

  10. It’s become clear that John Key wasn’t a particularly popular prime minister amongst other MP’s, particularly long standing politicians held in high regard by the voting public, such as Winston Peters.

    However, he was popular with the voting public itself, hence his consistently high polls amongst what he once described as a “Labour media bias”. He was also popular with statesmen from other countries and this helped us as a country to recuperate from the mess that Helen Clark left us in, internationally with public relations. Although she always endeavored to represent New Zealand well on overseas trips, the powerful people overseas unfortunately were often men who weren’t all used to dealing with powerful female politicians.

    So, fast forward to 2017, and despite a high election result, third term Prime Minister of New Zealand and leader of the National Party, John Key, was ousted by Kingmaker Winston Peters, Leader of the New Zealand First Party. And, if you ask me, there’s more than a hint of bitterness involved, as Winston Peters was still a bit stung by his legal rebuke during his high profile Winebox days. To blame John Key for it, though, simply because of his past as a merchant banker, was still possibly a bit of a stretch.

    Key was a first term MP when he was elected to the National leadership. That was almost unheard of in New Zealand politics at the time. Clark had been in politics for ages, as had most other sitting MP’s. He was undoubtedly backed by some wealthy and powerful people but that is no excuse for Winston Peters to take his anger out on him in 2017.

    As for the future of the National Party, there are comparisons between Christopher Luxon and John Key which aren’t going in Luxon’s favour. The voting public should have seen past the past by now as here is an entirely new personality with his point of difference being that he wishes to reduce income inequality and also to make housing more affordable, over a period of time, to everyone who is working for a living and is able to save some money.

  11. I would give every NZ citizen in the world the right to vote as happens with French and US citizens. Then allow those residents of New Zealand who qualify to vote as well. Those NZ citizens who live outside New Zealand would carry one vote – the party vote under our current electoral system.

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