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  1. Chris, I note that your post on CPTTP has been up for over 24 hours. No one has responded to date; excluding my post now. I would have thought that at the least the activists who post on your blog to comment – but they haven’t.

    This lack of response seems to support your main point; that any protest action about the imminent signing of this trade agreement is too little to late and will be irrelevant.

    Your article could have been seen as a call to arms – but no one, including the activists, indicate that they’re willing to take it up.

    I suspect that the vast majority of Nzder’s find the arguments against signing the CPTTP to be far to esoteric and remote from their own experiences that they will roll off them like water off a ducks back.

    Parker’s speech about the economic benefits that may flow to freezing workers and to farmers and to everyone in between resonates so much more convincingly with the general public.

    As you say the deal will be done; the agreement will be signed. And the projected negative impacts on New Zealand either won’t happen or will have such limited impact that no one will notice.

  2. Chris, I note that your post on CPTTP has been up for over 24 hours. No one has responded to date; excluding my post now. I would have thought that at the least the activists who post on your blog to comment – but they haven’t.

    This lack of response seems to support your main point; that any protest action about the imminent signing of this trade agreement is too little to late and will be irrelevant.

    Your article could have been seen as a call to arms – but no one, including the activists, indicate that they’re willing to take it up.

    I suspect that the vast majority of Nzder’s find the arguments against signing the CPTTP to be far to esoteric and remote from their own experiences that they will roll off them like water off a ducks back.

    Parker’s speech about the economic benefits that may flow to freezing workers and to farmers and to everyone in between resonates so much more convincingly with the general public.

    As you say the deal will be done; the agreement will be signed. And the projected negative impacts on New Zealand either won’t happen or will have such limited impact that no one will notice.

  3. John key already signed it back in 2016. This is another bump in a long of line of bumps on a long. long road. Another review in 3 years.

  4. The only way to stop all this kind of stuff from happening is to form a grass roots opposition movement, that acts outside of Parliament, and that reaches out and signs up as many individuals and groups as they can.

    IOF and others tried hard, but it was not enough support, to put pressure on Labour and NZ First, hence we get what we get now.

    If there are not the numbers to stand up and take action, then there will be nothing stopping this deal come reality. We need a more radical approach to confront and engage people all over the streets, at public places, meetings and at transport nodes.

    Active cells need to spread opposition, based on some simple ideas and principles, that may convince ordinary people, who are too much living into their own spaces, also constantly inundated by consumerist propaganda and so forth, they have no idea what is really going on and going to come upon us one day.

    If this does not happen, i.e. activate people, prepare your own local groups to survive at least, until times my be better and people more receptive to the messages they need to hear. This may only happen once an economic meltdown or other catastrophe strikes us. That will come, but may take a while yet, certainly in NZ Inc, where there is still much land and other resource to plunder, after many parts of the world have already been before.

    So in summary, I fear Chris is right on this topic and conclusion.

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