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  1. The shame is that “egalitarian NZ” is not a myth in that it did exist not long ago. It’s taken only a generation from the sublime to the ridiculous.
    D J S

    1. Never existed. Things have gotten worse via govt support, health care and housing for the working poor and poor.
      Cuts and ignoring inflation and the economic monopoly .

  2. But, but, but Fran O’Sullivan disagrees with you and she believes her word is gospel and has attacked Winston for agreeing with you.

    1. Fran is a shill for the uber classes. Lets quickly examine a couple of issues around this.

      First: Theo and Sate sector bosses may theoretically be worth this ridiculous rate of pay, I dont know of any methodology to line up their results with pay. In a commercial operation you are responsible for income so if you can generate more and diminish costs you could possibly enumerate your value. In a government operation such a connect is impossible as you get the income from the taxpayer, ergo state sector bosses control only costs and expenditure. To me that is worth bugger all, any reasonable manager can do that. As a business savvy person I very much doubt that Theo is worth very much, I cannot see that a CEO of a government department is worth $600K.

      Second: Two lots of people are ill served by Theos salary…..first the shareholders, that is money out of their pockets. More fool them, I have no sympathy. Second the taxpayer…..at 33% MINUS all the avoidance vehicles the man pays on a comparative basis less than his share. In any normal country he would be on an effective rate of 3 or 4 times as much. We society, and all the things we pay tax for, he can use. I think he might pay (a lot) more.

  3. Thanks Christine

    It is such a pity that the majority of New Zealanders love to be down trodden by hundreds of wealthy misfits such Theo Spiering.

    They like to be ripped off too, by Foreign Banks. Faulty Chinese Steel Mongrels. Over priced food such as Butter, Cheese, Milk, Vegetables.

    New Zealanders get wonderful warm feelings when they pay those louts of LandLords who push them into overpriced slums and poverty.

    New Zealanders crave low wages. Knowing and applauding that the real wealth goes happily to the wealthy.

    Why have New Zealanders not grown up and dealt to those who belittle and abuse them? Why WhY Why ?

    1. Brilliant.

      And why ? ,… because there is a whole community of big business donating to political party’s to legislate and lock in these conditions . It was / is a deliberate initiative by them ,… and speaking of initiative ,… let us focus a bit on the former Business Roundtable ,… now calling themselves the New Zealand Initiative.

      And then lets read again the timeless and up to date relevance of the words of the late Hugh Price about who these scumbags are and how they operate in New Zealand.

      This is where we find the answers to your questions:

      New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
      http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

  4. Corporations rule the world.

    Corporations focus on what is good for corporations in the short term.

    Governments act as facilitating agents for corporations.

    Laws are written to protect corporations and give them increasing power over the lives of citizens.

    The entire system is unsustainable and is progressing towards complete collapse.

    Complete collapse will occur before 2030, largely as a consequence of corporations ruling the world.

    Overpopulation and overconsumption -both dysfunctional aspects of the modern world- are major contributors to the predicament humanity finds itself in.

    It is all unstoppable at this late stage, though ameliorating action COULD be taken.

    The next government will make matters worse, whichever party leads it, because the foundations of society have been deceit and fraud for a very long time, and no politician will tackle ANYTHING that is fundamentally wrong. Cowardice and betrayal are the bywords of the age.

    Pity the children (all of them), who are being lied to and robbed.

  5. The other interesting statistic is that many of the CEO’s are not New Zealander’s of the biggest ‘NZ’ branded companies.

    Theo Spierings from Fonterra is Dutch.

    Nick Grayson from The Warehouse is from the UK.

    Both CEO’s have been bought in from overseas on huge salaries but ultimately when things go wrong there is no real worry for them – they can continue to go offshore to other high paid jobs leaving any messes from their leadership in NZ behind them and its the employees and taxpayers of NZ who pay the price for any failure.

  6. I do not wish to contribute any more of my money to these greedy people, so I have decided to boycott their products – Anchor, De Winkel, Fresh ‘n Fruity, Mainland, Mammoth, Perfect Italiano, Piako, Primo, Symbio, and Tip Top. There are alternatives.

  7. I would say if we don’t get off the Neo liberal track soon we will have problems in this country. This could include civil unrest or even revolution if things go far enough. The sign of trouble will be when the rich start seriously gating themselves in using electric fences etc. That will show they feel threatened.

    1. Jono they have been gating themselves for ages in fact they have gone even further they now have their own islands and guess what right here in little old NZ.

  8. Hitting Back at Inequality

    Perhaps we could attempt just two strategies initially:

    1) Refuse to buy Fonterra cheese if it costs above ¢ents 0.50 a kilogram.

    2) We demand of Parliament that no wage is legal unless it be $25 per hour minimum. Reviewed upwardly every 6 months. Any Business who defaults will face Court and heavy fines.

    If a Business cannot afford to pay the legal wage it may borrow money at 21% from Work and Income.

    Just as Businesses put up their prices to suit themselves, NZ Consumers must have the equal right to put up their wages accordingly.

    For we are a Democracy not a Slavery.

    We are told – admittedly by LIARS – that our Economy is strong. So a realistic rise in wages is absolutely appropriate. Also we know just how grossly our Businessmen are paid.

    These rules do not apply to small family businesses – unless they employ staff.

    1. NZers also need to change banks to a NZ bank the foreign banks are milking us I couldn’t wait to get away from Westpac they are greedy and quick to give your details to the government on a whim.

  9. Isn’t the average wage calculations overly affected by these over inflated salaries? Isn’t the median wage lower?

    Steven Clifford on the David Packman Show had many good points –
    here’s the link https://youtu.be/rj8zwaHwzJI

    Also re hospitals – the essential non clinical staff have had pay and conditions (increase work loads due to the employee cap) drastically reduced while CEO pay was significantly increased 2 years ago. It’s important we do not always just mention nurses and doctors – these front-liners would be swamped without the work of booking clerks,etc.

  10. When is a person greedy?

    When they think they don’t have enough.!!

    When is a person truly poor?

    When they have nothing to share.

    What is the space in between?

    Hate or love for a fellow man.

  11. To: Country Boy

    I enjoyed reading your Post !

    We need to exercise our rights as human beings. We have been abused badly. Our Environment has been abused shockingly.

    The only ones who can uplift the great majority of New Zealanders is we the people ourselves. We can do it by clawing back much higher wages; much better Housing; free Education.

    Otherwise we will forever have soulless abusive “Paula Bennett” types dropping little bits of dog food in our mouths for decades to come.

    Remember, Corporations, and the wealthy who “manage” them, come last in our society. As will the current Media. Way Way last.

  12. A 78% pay rise for the average worker would put them on $101,668. That would be a big help but it would still mean Theo Spearings would only gouge 81 times the avearge worker instead of 145 times which is what he currently gets.

    If dairy and therefore the nation is doing so well that he deserves 78% pay rise then what about the rest of us too.

    General Strike for 78%.

  13. It’s worse than that, check your maths; $8,300,000 per annum is over $159,000 per week. I often wonder how they justify this sort of income to themselves, how do they feel that they alone are worth the equivalent of, say, 170 teachers or nurses.

    1. Maths Check

      $8.3mill.pa divided by $57,000pa = 145 times the average annual wage
      $57,000pa + 78% = $101,000pa
      $8.3mill.pa divided by $101,000pa = 81 times the average annual wage.

      $8.3mill per annum divided by 52 weeks = $159,000 per week for Speiring

  14. Those who write the rules on the backs of pieces of toilet paper in business class haven’t changed the basic ingredients of the NZ pie’s division. Once it was divided more or less equitably, now more of it is given to the favoured few and less to the needing many. This becomes a gated community society where the strong eat fiercely and ferociously while the weak just survive if they’re lucky. You realise all theories exist in actuality only in the mind, don’t you!?

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