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  1. Maori have the opportunity to run there own affairs. There future is now our future. There’s been to many Tova headlines running around way before Tova was born and in a liberal democratic society they should have been stopped a hundred years ago.

  2. You could always ask Murdoch to start up a news outlet here if you miss that here.

  3. Thank you for having both eyes open Mr Trotter.
    We live in dangerous times.

  4. The other thing that can go wrong with polling is that political parties feel complacent that they will win, start implementing unpopular policy and then lose! AKA Brexit, Trump, Morrison victories. It has become a bit about who has the most unpopular polices and then even if the other has huge issues, people vote against the policy of the party that was supposed to win, as a protest.

  5. TV3 political editors over the years: Duncan Garner, Paddy Gower and Tova O’Brien. All have the same ‘gotcha’ MO and moralising editorial shtick so not surprised with how the poll was presented. Out of the 3, I’d consider Tova as the most professional, with her equal opportunity stance on putting the knife in whether deserved or not. Just business as usual from TV3 who consider the News Dept as part of their Entertainment division. The recent public polling on trust in News showed TV3 is the ‘3rd most trusted’ in NZ, not something I would run as a byline. However, a poll of 5.6% for any leader is news worthy despite Chris’s annoyance at how it was ‘explained’. There are other polls from other news organisations that mirror this trend of Judith’s decrease in popularity. The expectation that 5.6% should be explained away as ‘normal’ just doesn’t pass muster IMO and TV3 has done me the service of confirming that NZers no longer respond to dog whistle politics or at the very least, will keep racist shit talking to a minimum.

  6. Excellent article Chris. I might add that the Reid Research poll is dodgy as I found out listening to Hosking this morning. Half the poll is online which I believe Colmar Brunton is as well. However, the difference is that on the online part that asked the prefered PM, John Key was one of the options given. That is why he polled 6.7%. The highest Key ever polling before was 1% in Nov – Dec 2020 by Colmar Brunton. This is because Comar Brunton do not name people, not in Parliament but allow participants to name them.

    If Reid Research had not named Key he would not have got 6.7% and Judith would have got a lot higher thatn 5.6%. It is hard to say if the polling method was aimed at what resulted or just negligent polling.

    1. This research was what people was thinking and doing weeks ago, this type of research is expensive and isn’t really helpful in the final result.

    2. “…the Reid Research poll is dodgy as I found out listening to Hosking this morning.”

      🙂

  7. We should be fair to our media. After all, the companies and so many of their employers spend their lives in perpetual search for someone who’s got a grizzle because something isn’t right.
    The hope of coming up with some disenchanted citizen must wear at one.
    The praying all week that some rugby player will get drunk at do something dumb or a team after their weekend match will destroy their accomodation? What a life.

    Political polls are manna.

  8. The result of the Labour Gov’t giving $105M to the MSMedia is definitely self interested propaganda, quality journalism left the room a long time ago (probably it’s last gasp was back in Clarks/Keys early days).

    1. So how.much did Joyce give media works to promote National party propaganda and cancel Campbell Live?

  9. Spun bloody gold from Chris, especially the penultimate paragraph.
    What a sombre place NZ is likely to become once Chris is too old to write and the narrative-over-fact MSM’s manufactured worldview goes unchallenged – because I don’t see much talent coming through to take his place.

  10. Well done Chris. I am a 30 year Labour voter and I agree with you entirely.

    Who knows what the politician’s motivations are but as someone who has read about 50% of the long version He Pua Pua document, I would challenge those who say it’s all about race and dirty politics to go and take a look at it. Although I think there are questions that could be debated about Maori and their future role in government, I think the main issue with He Pua Pua is a constitutional one. It should be out and being discussed firstly by the PM who is enacting it Does the document suggest separate treatment or merely co -governance? How does it sit with the differing views of the Crown and Maori on the principals of Te Tiriti? What are the legal status of any changes made by the government and what path are we taking. Does it enshrine Te Tiriti into our constitution?. There’s a lot to look at there and we really do need to be offered a good understanding of it by a balanced, intelligent and respectful media. So there’s that.

    Then there is also the issue of what happens when the 85% multicultural ‘other’ realise that we are not equal in ways that really count. Education, Health, Justice, Business etc etc. Does the idea of deepening divisions not worry anyone else on either side of this debate?

  11. Someone who crippled our country and found mythical 11 billion dollar hole gets a medal?

    And so the truth will set you free John.

  12. Chris Trotter: “It’s a game played out every day in Moscow and Beijing.”

    With the exception of the above, I agree with everything you say here.

    In truth, neither Moscow nor Beijing has any special place in the propaganda game nowadays. Russia has been a democracy for many years, and for both that country and China, the rise of the internet has rendered largely pointless, attempts at propagandising their citizens.

    A more apt comparison would be both the US and UK media, which have been broadcasting propaganda-as-news for all of my longish life. Their output is still rebroadcast uncritically in this country.

    It wasn’t until the rise of the internet in the 1990s that we came to understand how comprehensively we’d been lied to.

    Even now, US and UK media are still attempting to shape how we think about situations overseas. Right now it’s the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but most recently, it’s been China, Burma and just about every country in the ME with which the US has a beef of one sort or another.

    Unfortunately for them, we now have access to countervailing evidence and perspectives.

    1. Russia has been a democracy for many years has it??? Omg, you’re beyond help.

      1. Sam: “Russia has been a democracy for many years has it???”

        Of course it has. Do you not pay attention to what’s going on – or has gone on – in the world? Looks as if you don’t. We have family there: democracy, right enough. Possibly since before you were born, if you’re young enough.

        Oh but that’s right: you’re in Australia, aren’t you, as you’ve told us. We have family there, and they’re also very poorly-informed about international events.

        Remember that the news your msm broadcasts comes from those great propagandists, UK and US. And I’ll take a punt that it’s rebroadcast uncritically there, as it is here, judging by your misapprehensions about Russia.

        1. First of all I don’t pay much attention to Media Works. By now it’s a joke. It’s just state media. All the rest of the 3rd estate are just low IQ on much more serious issues that are being sidelined and I think you’ll find the same with Russia – so fucken what??? Criticising Trotter, NZ State Media and social and democratic change by taking a look at Russia is totally the wrong place to look little girl.

          1. Sam, Chris Trotter was the one who used Moscow and Beijing in the same breath, so to speak.

            I was responding to him, not to you.

            It’s important to correct any misapprehensions which anyone may entertain about Russia’s democratic status. In this regard, US and UK Russophobia has been very influential worldwide.

            I’ve said before that I like commenting on Chris’s posts, because he clearly values free speech. No doubt this is why he allows your comments through.

            Moreover, in his responses, he plays the ball, not the man, a skill which you – along with a number of other commenters on this blogsite – all too evidently lack.

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