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  1. Then suicide rate is no mystery. It never has been.

    Poverty, loss or community involvement, loss of prospect to meet simple life goals such as being fed, getting income, resolving mental anguish and lack of community recognition that help is needed.

    Being alone in a community.

    The greater the inequity and hopelessness, generally the less the society can support suicidal prospects

    Redistribution of health and wealth has to be a start.

  2. In Australia, suicide rates spiked after their gun buy back.
    I don’t think anyone is serious about wanting to know what other people find important in their lives , the truth is too inconvenient for those who know better.

  3. With the Suicide Mortality Review Committee, hosted by the Health Quality and Safety Commission, the Coronial process and the DHB Adverse Event process, I think that we are quite advanced at asking the ‘why of suicide’ in Aotearoa New Zealand. Let’s just hope the setting up of a Suicide Office in the Ministry of Health and the new Suicide Prevention Strategy and Action Plan pulls all the learning together, so we can really get on and do something about these unacceptably high rates of tragedy in our communities. You are right to say that is where much of the solution lies, not necessarily in more services, or more professionals, but in more connected, open and compassionate communities. We need to think about fairness, inequity and bias, particularly racism. We need to be more comfortable to sit with people we love, in and through their distress. We need to think ‘why so many men’ and ‘why so many Māori’? We need to open our hearts to our neighbours, colleagues and friends, as well as our families and whānau. We need to care, more and consume/isolate ourselves less!

  4. depression is huge now and people aren’t nice we need to put a lot of work into this area

  5. Wonderfully expressed and powerful article. I don’t buy for an instant the line that a gaggle of health and social engineering experts at the Ministry of Health waffling over all the data will be able to offer anything more than the customary cliches. Racism, colonialism, (shall we all leave then?) the housing shortage. You won’t though, hear anything like this reality: ‘Look at the manner in which our suicide rates jumped after the neoliberal reforms of the 1980s, where we moved away from the communal towards the individual… ‘
    I’m just reading Michael Hudson’s ‘…and forgive them their debts’ and discovering that debts from the bronze age on, meant actual indebtedness from which, periodically, citizens were released by rulers and temple complexes for reasons which were entirely logical and aimed at preventing the atomising of society and the retaining of its connectiveness and cohesiveness for very practical reasons from the rulers point of view.
    Then there is the alchemical understanding of depression. Once known as melancholia and the gateway to transformation; not something to be rejected as an illness and attacked with pharmaceutical drugs.
    Tribal people with a shamanistic tradition understood this very well.
    As a matter of fact so did early Greek philosophers like Parmenides. A new raft of scholastic interpreters of classical texts have emphasised the shamanistic roots of Western philosophy.
    So there is a great deal to discuss and consider and who needs the sorcery of advertising, public relations and social engineering?

    1. Archonblatter, you are so correct being sceptical about the Ministry of Health. Any mental health issue conducted under their auspices is a sick joke, when they are part of the problem.

      All over NZ there are people with physical and mental health issues exacerbated by lack of care, lack of treatment, and lack of concern from a Health Dept staffed often by drop-outs from mainstream medicine and, historically, second- rate Poms.

      We have societal problems which won’t be fixed by committees of the enablers – but bucketfuls of money will go to the consultants, per usual. Our values are skewered.

      For what needs doing today, a panel of supermarket checkout operators with student loans may be more pragmatic and much smarter than yet another govt task force- but because they are also unknowing victims of neoliberalism – go dig up our grandmother’s graves, or seek out our wise elders- on marae – ancient academics- the poets and the painters.

      Policy makers, possibly always, can see the objects of their policy as undeserving or inferior nuisances, which may handicap them before they even start. I sat on one benefit review committee once, and I don’t think that we did a particularly good job, or cared that much either.

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