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  1. Just be careful with figures. The economist says the VALUE has gone up by $1.5T over 30 years. With respect, that is the on paper inflation of VALUE. Not actualization of INCOME received. No investor received any INCOME unless they BOUGHT and SOLD in this market. At any point in the 30 years the SOLD and BUY price are pretty close together, one buys and sells in the same market. TURNOVER in a narrow band of TIME does not produce as much INCOME as is being suggested.

    Unless ALL real estate was sold tomorrow, there is no increased INCOME to be derived from the VALUE to be received by the owners (occupiers or investors — unless like me they have become a PAPER millionaire by “land banking” the real estate currently occupied).

    It is a classic example where the call for TAX THE RICH falls down as a workable scheme. For to tax the rich you need real estate (for that is where a large percentage of wealth is stored) as high as possible to gain the most tax. Means the state does will not want to do anything to lower the VALUE and everything to increase the VOLUME for real estate (immigration).

    If you want the VALUE of real estate to come down the last thing you want is to bring in a wealth tax. You will end up with a tax take reduction (hoping the WEALTH owner had the CASHFLOW to pay the tax — but that is another kettle of fish altogether).

    To lower the price of a new build the state could banish private enterprise from building them and could banish the occupiers or investors from owning them. Not sure if that would either reduce the COST of housing or the VALUE. Is that an election winner or even able to be enacted for the state to fund and actually build (remember the success of the “100,000 new homes over 10 years” election pledge just six years ago?).

    How quick we forget that the 1930’s state housing boom was funded by the state (borrowed money) but built be private enterprise (Fletchers started as a two brothers building state houses enterprise to grow to the monolith it is today).

    1. How much health services do you want to cut to keep taxes down Gerrit?

      Remember, your mates in National cut taxes for over 30 years leading to the closure of scores of schools and hospitals, and the downsizing of the state housing portfolios, mainly into the hands of private landlords who rents them out at up to 90% of household income. Strange how people like you dont seem to mind landlords financially breaking their tenants with excessive rent increases.

      1. WOW, completely different tangent. I don’t have mates in any political party. ALL of them are leaches on society. We simply pick one not as bad as the other. Bit like people will hold their nose and vote Trump for Biden stinks even higher). We should have term limits (8 years max), no list MP’s no political parties. Only need 60 of the smartest people to run the country. Every two years we vote for 30 replacements to ensure continuity. Our representatives elect the heads of departments to keep the PMC doing the electors desires.

        Please explain how a wealth tax will work and how you will set valuations on everything, every year? The tax required to pay for that government department plus arbitration court will eat up more taxes that could be spend in the health service.

        1. We either have a wealth tax, or US style healthcare.

          I dont know about you, but I dont want to be thousands of dollars in debt because of an emergency room visit. Rich pricks like you have had it way too good, for way too long.

    2. You write a lot to push your agenda but neglect to mention that hause prices compared to average wages are many multiples worse now than in the 1960s. Local and central government policies have caused that imbalance so it is only selfishness on your part to expect to retain the financial gain without contributing to government costs. There is reliable evidence to show that if the amount spent inflating house prices had been invested in productive industry instead we would have a better society with a more even distribution of wealth however it is people like you who want a big share of a small pot who prevent the development of a system where we get a fairer share of a bigger pot.

  2. Given the increase in value of housing stock, how much better shape would the governments books be if Douglas and Richardson hadn’t sold thousands of State Houses. Real Estate turned out to be the best investment in NZ during the last 30 years and Douglas and Richardson turned out to be the dumbest investors in NZ in the last 30 years.

    1. Douglas never sold any state houses. In fact, the state housing stock expanded under the 4th Labour government, along with the welfare state. It only turned to shit after 1990.

  3. Of cause state houses would need to be built by private companies as they always have .Huge savings could be made by the government buying materials in bulk at good discounts .We could stop selling logs for a year and turn them into timber to be used right here in NZ .tHE LAST GOVERNMENT TRAINED 100K NEW TRADIES SO WE WILL NOW HAVE ENOUGH TO BUILD THOUSANDS OF NEW HOMES QUICKLY .tHE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS SCREAMING OUT FOR WORK SO THE GOVERNMENT COULD SET THE PRICE THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE NEXT 3 YEARS AND GET PIPES IN THE GROUND .

  4. Regarding insulation standards, typical of Labour, they applied an overegged standard that might well apply to Twizel but made zero sense in Whangaroa. They just can’t help themselves when it comes to poking their snouts into people’s private business.

    What definitely does make sense is letting owners decide how much insulation they want and then paying for it. If it’s going to give them a return in the form of lower power bills, then they will surely be prepared to pay for it. The level of insulation is recorded in LIM reports, so if it adversely affects the future resale value they will surely be prepared to invest in a little extra insulation.

    1. remember the national party leaking homes that are still delivering today ?dumb arse .I would rather have a warm house any where in NZ than a leaking uninsulated house .Also insulated houses stay cooler in summer if they are well ventelated .The reason they heat up is because people dont open windows .

    2. Having worked at all levels of the residential building industry for over 40 years i would have to say that that is by far and away the dumbest comment i have ever read on this subject …only rivalled by Penk’s ridiculous false statements !!

      How can people be so stupid , so ill informed , so lacking in any critical thinking? One of life’s mysteries!

      1. Is that you Mike Hosking? If not I didn’t know New Zealand had two experts on well, everything.

    3. To you and Yeti regarding building standards typical of Nationals leaky buildings scandal. We are repeating their horrid mistakes by removing building regulations so their donors can make more money.

    4. Andrew it looks George Costanza has a challenger for the title ‘Lord of the Idiots’.

      Chris Penks added cost figure that he bandied about halved within days after scrutiny. This current National mob excel in talking bullshit.

    1. Given that they were batting a real-estate/ building supply and build industry dominated by conservative political supporters is it any surprise that it never delivered? I know of thousands of leaky homes due to Nationals last failure with building regulations but there are very few people losing financially after Kiwibuild.

    2. Actually relative to the previous administrations it still delivered way more houses. It certainly didn’t deliver relative to what was promised.

  5. I see the condo builders in Canada cant sell what they have built because people dont want to live in a dog kennel .And their kennels are way bigger than the ones the buffoon wants us to live in here .

    1. Yeti lives in a cave so anything is bigger although probably leaky like Nationals house builds.

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