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  1. …..Or is it simply a case of because the gumermint is paying for the vaccine means that it’s not important until some so called entitled urbanised champagne socialist wants to place the blame on WORKING TAX PAYING class citizens who rationally way up the pros and cons on vaccinations and in there own drab goody good two shoes way says yeah that’s a good idea it will benefit my kids as well as the rest of my community to get vaccinated and get it done without a song and dance and not make a shit for brains excuse that it’s the perceived Remuera yummy mummy icons that are holding the rest of the country to ransom for not vaccinating there cherubs.

  2. That’s gospel, a great addition to several on point contributions from Bryan Bruce lately.

    I wanted to comment on your observation on kiwis wanting to punish the “other”, though.
    You know what I’m going to say about:
    “I like how we immediately knee-jerk some bullshit criminalisation regime whenever something happens, it’s like Kiwis are preprogrammed to scream, ‘why not punish them’ whenever any problem unfolds as if the punishment, threats of punishment and screaming about punishment will magically make the problem disappear.“
    Yes, best represented by punishing law abiding gun owners for an Australian Terrorist.

    But this propensity to scream and punish the other has become far worse under the woke left.
    Pre programmed? Possibly yes.
    Its at a point where it looks suspiciously like a media campaign demonising the “other” appears around the time the government is pushing on an issue. (Notably “guns bad”, now “anti vaxers causing outbreak”)
    Note the same breathless articles often starting in RNZ , then newsroom then stuff.
    Watch for this pattern.
    This looks like dirty politics not done on other politicians, but citizens of this country.

  3. Instead of punishing people who fail to get their children vaccinated, why not pay a bonus once they have completed their vaccinations.
    Even if those who don’t need the money are paid it may cost less than having to treat the thousands who end up ill during an epidemic.

  4. Perhaps if the fact that here are now 1051 cases of the measles infection – 877 of which are in Auckland.

    Auckland is ground zero of immigration and satellite families operating.

    Perhaps the officials might like to actually stop measles by making tourists and people entering into NZ be immunised before they come here!

    That means that the current trend of overseas people having babies in NZ or taking babies and young children into and out of NZ on a myriad of visas, who can’t be immunised needs to be addressed as well as unimmunised adults.

    The publicity campaign so far only targets NZ local people and always a Pakeha babies as the ‘face of measles’ judging by the amount of measles in Auckland, this could be part of the problem, that is making things worse as they may not be targeting people coming into and out of NZ who are not immunised and carriers who came into the country and therefore their PC ness is part of the problem helping it spread through Auckland.

    Measles is steadily getting worse in NZ in the last few months, maybe they need to look at who and why people are getting affected and also instead of targeting WINZ, they target tourists and temporary residents and people visiting places with measles risks, who are not immunised and should be because they are the ones bringing the disease into NZ.

    Happening everywhere. Apparently they are making everyone migrating out of Venezuela be vaccinated to stop in spreading to surrounding countries.

    In NZ, like the CHCH massacre, our authorities only scold and blame the locals for measles spread, not target real sources of the disease entering NZ via incoming carriers or people visiting or temporarily living here.

    Nor is there any understanding of why people are getting less vaccinations here or it’s spread, there are a lot more reasons than the anti vaxers including being charged approx $150 at A&E in Auckland to get a measles check for a family, non government plunket which has to be just as focused on funding rather than primary health care and the failure of that model for baby care, very poor maternity care in NZ where Mothers are routinely pushed out of hospitals within hours of birthing ensuring a range of issues that can develop including post natal depression, the way the vaccine is administered aka multiple injections on the same day for infants to save money instead of having them more staggered. Apparently medical staff also encouraged the use of pamol after the vaccine for infants while then finding it may actually reduced the effectiveness of vaccines .

  5. I don’t usually object to your comments Martyn. But …. as a beneficiary who is among other things a breast cancer survivor – Should I sooner or later need one of the drugs that the Government may or may not fund in future, I will be depending on them as there is absolutely no way I could afford to pay for them. This would be a life or death matter for me, as it has been for the campaigners. I do agree that there are so many other health conditions which need increased funding. It should be a priority for this government, along with social housing, welfare etc (which also affect me directly)

  6. I don’t usually object to your comments Martyn. But …. as a beneficiary who is among other things a breast cancer survivor – Should I sooner or later need one of the drugs that the Government may or may not fund in future, I will be depending on them as there is absolutely no way I could afford to pay for them. This would be a life or death matter for me, as it has been for the campaigners. I do agree that there are so many other health conditions which need increased funding. It should be a priority for this government, along with social housing, welfare etc (which also affect me directly)

  7. “Disease that impacts the young, the poor and the brown don’t get jack shit because the young, the poor and the brown don’t vote like middle class boomers do.” I would like to see the figures backing up this assertion.
    A big chunk of the middle-class pays for private health insurance, which takes pressure off the public health system which allows poorer people to get greater access.
    Also, some of the diseases that are particularly prevalent among the poor cost as much to treat as the new wonder cancer drugs. Dialysis, for instance, epidemic in South Auckland, costs around $55,000 for a year of in-hospital treatment, which is about the same as, say, venetoclax for leukaemia, once Pharmac’s 50% discount is applied.
    Those cancer drugs won’t be rationed according to wealth, just as dialysis isn’t. Are you saying that a poor person with cancer shouldn’t get a life-saving drug? Your point of view is very hard to fathom.

    1. DHB’s can’t afford to go into the same kind of deficit spending that the Crown does because DHB’s don’t print money, or have the ability to borrow money that the Cronw has.

      This also means that entitlement spending wise becomes a very heavy burden on DHB budgets.

      This expressed itself in how poo oozes out of hospital walls and ca car patient died because of long wait times due to lack of intensive care beds. All because DHBs couldn’t balance the National Party’s budget priorities.

      It’s not that easy actually…, Indonesia new UHC health system just ran into this exact same problem a few years back. Who knew that when you give poor people the ability to access healthcare, they actually use it?

      Bah. Politicians.

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