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  1. .and someone I’ve never heard of

    That’s got to be an improvement on the usual routine.

    1. Tracy Watkin, Jon Johansson, both unanimous that Seymour is a waste of space, a wasted vote now that National will need more than Act and the Maori party, now that Dunne’s done. Tracy Watkin, Jon Johansson both stated National needs N.Z First, so Seymour will be irrelevant and National no longer needs to do a dirty deal in Epsom.
      However the “someone I’ve never heard of” immediately jumped to Seymour’s defense, rather aggressively I might add, indicating which political side of the fence she sits, so will hardly be impartial. This gives evidence to why she always bag the left parties when she is used to comment.

        1. Jesus H Christ Banjo. How on earth can someone like Raeburn possibly sit on this panel and pretend to be impartial. After reading her background no wonder she rifled out her support for Act and Seymour. I didn’t believe the so called corruption got any deeper but seriously folks, this has to be the worst conflict of interest outside of Key( shares in the Bank of America of which he borrowed from on behalf of N.Z.) and Collins( Orivida) I’ve ever seen.

          Thank’s for the heads up Banjo.

      1. “Someone you never heard of” is an active National Party member, former staffer of Gerry Brownlee, and current partner of a sitting NP MP (of who I had never heard) – from cursory Google search.

    2. That’s got to be an improvement on the usual routine.

      or not!

      christ, after reading who it was, definitely not.
      The usual pack of right wing ogres might have been better.

  2. Shaw may not have scored with the panel, no surprises there, but I thought Shaw got a good reception from the audience

  3. Politicians aren’t required to have brains just votes. A very sobering debate to watch.

  4. This debate won’t be uploaded until Sunday night – very targeted to the baby boomers so unfortunately I’ll be waiting a while to view. I called up ‘threenow’ and was told “this program, like the news is designed to be watched live on TV” and that ‘you wouldn’t buy yesterday’s newspaper’.

    I mean, why would I even buy a newspaper? I don’t even own a TV aerial – I read and stream my news. It’s 2017 and The Nation is a publicly funded show, shouldn’t I have the right to watch a leaders debate online in a timely fashion?

  5. Seymour will get in because the good folk of Epsom have been told to put him in.

    At the moment though the funniest thing about the campaign is working out what ‘outrageous’ thing he is going to do or say to get relevance and seeing him desperately cling onto Winston Peters for attention. He thinks Peters is irrelevant but if Peters weren’t around he’d have to find something else to hang his “look at me I’m relevant” hat on.

    My message to David is, don’t waste time going to meetings, knocking on doors or extending yourself coming up with cunning stunts to get attention.

    Go home, sit down with a nice cup of tea and all the replays of Coronation Street. You are safe, they have been told to vote for you so you are a shoe-in.

  6. I think Seymour is finished. I don’t understand why Marvelly carries on with that rubbish (is she a bit thick)?. It was obvious what he meant.

    1. Epsom was close in 2014. Seymour (Act) 43% of vote; Goldsmith (Nat) 31.6%; Wood (Lab) 9.3%; Genter (Grn) 8.1%; Rankin (Con) 4.6%; others 3.4%.
      If Lab and Green (candidate) voters had held their noses and swung in behind Goldsmith, Seymour was defeated.
      Has Bill English had a cup of tea in Epsom yet?
      I am not sure whether I would be glad if Seymour got in (and was banished to back benches, taking a Nat seat with him, as he is not part of a team “Nat and NZ1st”, should that come to pass) or whether he gets put to bed, once and for all.

  7. The biggest winner is Winston, who did not lower himself to be thrown into a rink with stirred up and desperate little political party agitators. I think Winston did follow his perfect instinct, and thought, he will not bother facing off with mostly losers.

    This will win him and NZ First even more votes on 23 September.

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