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  1. Is OT different from any other state or council run organization. I doubt it yet many on this post want these departments to grow in size and power and condemn National for curbing them and letting people run their own lives

    1. When rampant immigration occurs of course organizations need to increase. Fuck are you thick and no that’s not a question.

  2. “woke critical race theory dogma ”

    Tucked away in a folder I have a response to people who – without knowing anything about it – criticise CRT. Time to take it out again. I usually post it in reply to idiotic conservatives.

    ‘So we’re back to Critical Race Theory again, interesting. I was just wondering though, have any of you people with your knickers in a twist about it read Delgardo and Stefancic’s Critical Race Theory, An Introduction?, Or listened to Crenshaw’s interview ‘The Battle over Critical Race Theory’ on the Daily Show? Have you had a look at Jones’s article in the New York magazine – How to Manufacture a Moral Panic? Have you read any of the academic criticism by Subotnik or Farber & Sherry? Have you read the interview by the journalist who started all this – Rufo – on how he deliberately set out to demonise and redefine CRT so that it represents anything about the teaching of race that you don’t like? Have you even listen to that conservative hero Ben Shapiro explain it to Bill Maher? He doesn’t like it, but at least he knows roughly what it is because he studied it at Harvard.
    Rufo said in an interview that he wanted “… to have the public read something crazy and immediately think ‘Critical Race Theory’. We have decodified the term, and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.”
    Of course you bloody haven’t, let me suggest a more typical trajectory – you went to Kiwi blog, you followed a link to an extreme right magazine run by the admitted anti-Semite Taki Theodoracopulos and you were sent to an article by that racist harridan Ann Coulter, who also doesn’t know anything about it, and inhaled her bile as if it was lifeblood. In other words you know sweet Fanny Adams about CRT, and yet you feel both qualified and obliged to criticise it. No wonder we need educational reform in this country, people are getting dumber and dumber.’

    Or you could watch this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICp1vGlh_U
    It’s quite sad that comedians have to point out that critical race theory isn’t the terrible stuff you seem to think it is, but at least it might provide you with a few minutes of innocent amusement.

    1. Thank you again GS for unpacking that and also pointing out that it is usually done for the illucidation of idiotic conservatives. You need to do it for the term ‘woke’ which is repeatedly used in blogs by MB and it’s very annoying and a word beloved of the rabid right. Hang on, I think there has been a discussion about that, so why is that stupid term ‘woke’ still being used?

  3. As much as we admire Karen Chhour for what she’s overcome in her life and achieved, I don’t think that makes her ideally suited to being the minister for Oranga Tamariki. If anything, it should disqualify her.
    Having suffered in the system, she has her own personal memories to deal with which influence her feelings about the ministry.
    It would be like making me the minister for Sport. I can’t be bothered with team sport, loathed having to do it and came to loathe the sporty kids because they were cruel and nasty about my lack of ability.
    If you were only good at school work, you weren’t allowed to retaliate. We knew more about good sportsmanship and leadership than sporty people because we lived the humiliation every day.

    Tracey Martin appears to not be in agreement with Ms. Chhour. Surely her opinion is worth considering.

    We must all take a dim view of people who seek to influence judges. That should be a very serious offence and dealt with properly even if it’s a govt. dept. doing it.

    These people who take a very hard line about things seem to be people who have had bad experiences themselves and think that makes them experts. That seems to apply to all of ACT in various ways.

  4. We had 3 foster children who were siblings. This placement kept them together in care. Despite the past years of chaos and harsh ttreatment in their lives, everyday they still missed their parents and loved them. The birth bond attachment prevailed.

    After a year they were ‘uplifted ‘ , no it was not brutal although we were very sad. Understood all along was the Court process , the Care of Child Act , the need for the biological parent/s to see them throughout ( as per Section 5 ) , and the understanding that the parent needed time to ‘ heal ‘ and be in a healthy state and environment.
    Today, I still see these grown children and their children and they still have sadness that they were apart from their own parent even for a short time.
    I too as a very young child was ‘ uplifted ‘ with 7 other siblings awoken in the night, and delivered to god knows where and to who , each of us seperated to different homes. None of those homes were our relatives. To this day , I still have clear memories, the fear and the overwhelming grief of that time of the seperation from my parents even though this was for a short time of weeks.

    Years back in my classroom, had been a neat young kid who had been with his foster parents for some years (since he was four). He would talk about his sadness of being seperated from his twin brother, placed in another family in another town, whom he had not been with for those years. He liked his foster parents very much, they were great people; but one day he came to say goodbye as he was being returned to be with his twin. He was ecstatic, that’s what mattered to him above all, his brother.

    Section 4, Section 5 and including Section 7AA are to protect against the detrimental impacts over the longer term to children from their detachment from the birth ‘family’ including siblings.

    1. You speak wisely and from experience. You have a firm grasp of the law and history which many of us don’t. Thank you for your enlightening and enlightened comments. We value them.
      Many memories are still raw for you and you noticed that with other children too. So, it’s real and should not be ignored, especially after all the messes the system has made over so many years.
      Maybe ACT suffers from too much ‘new broom sweeps clean’ thinking. Got to make their mark. They want to re-invent everything but they aren’t the people best suited to do it.

  5. We all wring our hands about this stuff but we do nothing to fix the reason we have OT .Eliminate poverty and OT goes away along with its failings

    1. True . Mine was a bastard , controlling pakeha . His Viking genes to the fore when he delivered his ‘ messages ‘ !

      1. A very moving story you tell O’Toole and of course siblings should never be separated, how terrible that happens and how frightening for children to be wrenched away from families and people they know to be put into strangers houses at a stressful time which brought about the need for removal. As much as possible needs to be done mitigate the fear these children have at such a time. Really appreciate you telling us your personal history here and you put the focus squarely back on the children who seem forgotton and least considered in of all this.

  6. We all wring our hands about this stuff but we do nothing to fix the reason we have OT .Eliminate poverty and OT goes away along with its failings

    1. Exactly. Every other action of this govt. is going to cause more of these problems in a few years’ time.
      Narcissists always have to create drama.

      1. Yes Joy, our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can’t help them, at least don’t hurt them. Seymour clearly has not learnt this philosophy. But why should he, he’s not a parent, he can’t know?

  7. That image is a warning about not trusting strangers that should be shown to all grown-up children in NZ.

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