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  1. Democracy that’s fine when you agree with the majority but requires politicians “with spine” to ignore it when the majority disagrees with you is not democracy. You either have democracy or you don’t.
    D J S

  2. I think Winston needs to concentrate on the “bigger issues”, the anti smacking legislation can wait for a rainy day, looks like he starting to bark at car tyres again?

    1. maybe if only our people that is the parents, boyfriends kept their hands to themselves and not bash the hell out of the little ones. Does sue’s bill work I don’t think so

      1. What evidence are you basing this on? Have you checked the court records? Compared how many parents got away with child abuse of “legitimate force” technicalities before s59 with how many have since it was passed? Because if not, you are talking shit, and if you join a big enough lynch mob, you have the potential to put children’s wellbeing at risk. Check. Your. Facts. I don’t mean by listening to fucking radio muppets either.

  3. Designed to align NZF with National perhaps?

    Although I like some of the NZF MPs and some of its policies, with the exception of this one, I couldn’t bring myself to vote for the party, because it’s dominated by Winston Peters, to the extent it’s become too well known as the Winston party!

    Another point that’s off putting for me, is Peters would not hesitate to take NZF over to the Nats, if the offers were good enough for him to enjoy! In fact I wouldn’t put it past the Nats in desperation, to offer him a knighthood (services to NZ and all that BS etc) to go over to the dark side, something I can’t see Peters refusing! Principle wouldn’t enter the equation!

    Time for NZF to get a new fresh look, starting with a new leader. There’s plenty of talent there to lead the party and take it forward.

  4. If the bill was actually effectual in reducing our appalling domestic abuse statistics, then I’d be all for it. But as far as I can tell not much changed. We’ve already had a referendum on this, but it was 100% ignored. For the record I have no opinion on it either way – Sue meant well, but it hasn’t achieved jack shit afaik in reducing the abuse it was supposed to help address, so I don’t really see why we should be so precious about getting rid of it (it’s not like the abuse stats will go up again, because they never moved).

    1. See my response to Mereana Mastny above. I’ve commented elsewhere on how the referendum was not a vote against s59, and that’s not going to change, no matter how many times you and other parrots repeat the Family Fist lie that it was.

  5. …bigger fish to fry Winston.
    How about a ‘living wage’ that takes the stress of having no money away – the creation by governments of an environment full of stresses, has a flow on effect, sadly the children always take the brunt.

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