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  1. Trump is right about the impeachment being bullshit. A republican senate was never going to impeach him and frankly leaning on the president of Ukraine to conduct an investigation into how Joe Biden did the exact same thing does not fit the definition of high crime and misdemeanor. It actually fits the definition of normal operating procedure for a US president.

    What is also normal for a US president is to conduct war crimes. Like every president since WW2 Trump has done that and could have been impeached on that basis but the people impeaching him were guilty of approving the same crimes so that was never going to happen either.

    Meanwhile the left have been caught up in this nonsense as the media breathlessly reported every detail of a trial that was never going anywhere.

    It’s time we got back to the work of building a better world rather than getting continually distracted by Trump’s shenanigans.

  2. I can’t believe how much type has been wasted on this farce which was always going to fail.
    Most people don’t care especially not in NZ. I don’t.
    Big own goal for the Democrats in America looking spiteful tearing up whatever TF piece of paper it was and yeah now Trump will say he’s vindicated and is even more likely to get reelected.
    What will the boring political officianados talk about endlessly now? Maybe something relevant.
    I’ll bet some lawyers got very rich.

  3. What makes you think Trump is any worse or better than any US administration? The TPPA was for example an Obama era deal and NAFTA came in under Clinton. As to starting wars there have been plenty from the Democratic and Republican governments over the decades.

    Its the same one philosophy (neo liberal) two party system we see here in NZ only more advanced and as a result uglier……

  4. God, I would have loved if Ardern had channeled some of this post-impeachment Trump after the Dew report of the alleged Labour sexual assault claims.

  5. How many knives were thrust into President Trump’s back by the dems?
    Nasty Nancy, and her cohorts?
    They are bad as each other.

  6. Alarming ignorance of American politics throughout these comments. Have a little belief in humanity’s ability to set things right. Martyn, I see no evidence of “vindication” from the acquittal — a foregone conclusion. Nor do I see “probable” victory for Trump when a recent Newsweek poll put Sanders (by 9 points), Buttigieg, Biden, Warren and others beating Trump in an election.

  7. This was the Democrat’s plan all along. The republicans have played right into their hands. They knew the republicans would never allow Trump to be impeached and they would use dishonest and unethical means to prevent it. Expect the testimony from the witnesses that were never called to feature prominently in the election campaign.

  8. As suggested by an earlier poster there appears to be much ignorance around the USA political farce. I guess because the ruling elite/governments have long understood the power of controlling the narrative and tech, complicity of the mass media and legal system have allowed them to confuse, suppress and divide at record levels.
    I also agree toxic is toxic its not gender/age based. There is so much I could say but not the forum. Couple things to note:
    Martyn – of course trump gloating – him, family and all associated have been lied about insulted from day 1 ( eg. steven colbert starts every show with 5 min monologue of insults then follows with procession of Dems like Schiff for more lies) not to mention the money they have spent on enquiry after enquiry and the vilification of Russia all for their political agenda and all this effects us too.
    Obama droned more people than all previous leaders together
    Impeach was about trying to take competitor biden out but the joke is impeach gave Dem senators the chance to stop trump running
    Pelosi had three copies of speech to rip up – one for each appearance that’s why he didn’t shake her hand
    Last but not least what really screams “broken” is while trump is impeached the allegation he makes about a corrupt vice pres are ignored and as for Romney having a spine – my god not only Biden’s son is implicated in Ukraine corruption – Pelosi & Romney & another high profile Dem’s son are/have also received huge sums for being on the boards of Ukraine companies and then there’s the Clintons ! – they are desperate to change the subject
    How the world allows such a farce to shape the “free world” is so sad. As for having faith – when we have a twat in a pink cardy ask what’s my driverless car ? Assange in jail , dotcom’s ordeal and adern’s inviting Colbert, Key still walking free to touch hair, play with barrack I’m sorry but we r doomed

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