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  1. The first thing that comes to my mind is the historical period and the cultural attitude associated with it. Furthermore it’s counter movement in the romanticism that came after it and to this day you can very clearly trace the conflict between the two left / right worldviews in our media.

    The Enlightenment between 1600s to 1700s in Europe and European colonies in which people began to reject the notion of “revealed truth” and confidence in ancient authority in favor of systematic examination of the world, discussion and the power of applied knowledge. From this period we get science, egalitarianism and democracy as opposed to doctrine, heirarchy and monarchical rule (though there are more steps involved in each which feed into other previous eras, but frankly this is the case for much of history as we all stand on the shoulders of giants).

    Sure, you can feel enlightened but that’s not the most trustworthy of feelings. I’ve mentored to many students who seemed absolutely genuine in their claims that they truly understood a concept – only to fail at the application of it again once it was slightly different than the examples given before. Whatever part of the human brain is responsible for checking the validity of mental models you build it’s extremely susceptible to emotional bribery.

  2. We still have a big percentage of NZ-ders that vote and support those national lying scaremongering mongrels Frank. Yes despite the mess our country is in are they blind deaf or dumb or all of that or are they just pure selfish and greedy. I think they are probably the whole lot wrapped up in a bundle.

  3. its gone beyond timid pokes at legislation, the poor are angry, look out for blow back, build a society on lies and privilege then be prepared for lawlessness on a mass scale, you got the guns but we got the Molotov cock tails, treat us like scabies we will fuk you up, property burns, rich ppl burn, farmers burn good, dumb ass university grads burn best of all, everyone ready for Guy Fawkes

  4. There’s no way the Nats could have gotten away with half the shit they did without wide ranging support from a significant chunk of the population. And that worries the fuck out of me, that some NZers can be so uncaring and cold-hearted. The Nats just tapped into what already exists in our society and fed it the prejudice it craved.

    1. Did they tap into something already existent Mjolnir, or did they help to create it, and if so, did they do so deliberately ? I think so.

      The demonisation of the poor in NZ is likely fairly racially based, but people are too scared to say this sort of thing.

      The cold and clinical way in which Key and English disparaged and debased our young men was exceptionally cruel, more so considering their tragic suicide rates. I won’t forgive those two for that for that, I see no reason to.

      That many young people, and a huge number of our prisoners, lack basic things like literacy skills is a major indictment of our education system and of the basic social structures which impinge upon those who need them the most. It is in all of our interests to have a socially cohesive society, and perpetuating the myth that all the hapless or hopeless choose to be that way is dumb, and achieves nothing useful at all.

  5. As true as this article is, it fails to address the elephant in the room that is where money comes from. As long as money is lent into existence by banks and extinguished as a loan is repaid governments will be able to claim there’s not enough money or that budgets have to be balanced. If money were provided to the economy by treasury or the reserve bank not only could it be directed where it’s needed but it’s supply could be used to manage the economy. The first Labor government used treasury money instead of “borrowing “ its own money from banks as we accept today. Money is a social good and it’s role in society is too important to be left in the hands of bankers.

  6. Yeah right on Frank. A major problem I see in NZ is total lack of empathy in that quarter. They’re doing well, stuff the rest, blame the parents and who cares about the losers. Well, I care but what can you do? These selfish, greedy and ignorant aholes are the real problem. National are simply waving the flag for these detestable parasites.

    1. Went through Epsom yesterday, saw a fair few large villas up for sale, between 1.5 and 3.5 million a piece, the property monopoly is heating up again. Those who can play that game, they do not give a donkey’s arse how others fare in the same country.

  7. 100% Frank as usual;

    This is yet another stunningly compenduim of history showing the cunning schemes of the sacked National Party as rabid, savage, animals just on the hunt for finding money to take from the poor and middle class to prop up their own funding for election bribes for the privleged and rich class.

    Yet the media never called them savage cost cutters did they or claim they were just triming back costs of the social services budgets, so the media was in colllussion with the last carpet bagging Government weren’t they? National made sure they would leave a ‘toxic hole’ for labour to fall into.

    “National’s tax cuts of 2009 and 2010 were not just an election bribe at a time the country could ill afford them – they were a strategic move to constrain a future Labour-led government in a tight fiscal straight-jacket.”

  8. This is a very good article, and I am sorry to see no comments on it just yet. My worry is that state sanctioned cruelty is also part of the deal, and that at best it will only be somewhat modified until the pressure for real change gains an unnerving edge. Look at the way David Cunliffe was treated, and he was hardly Che Guevara. Look at how swiftly Metiria Turei was dealt to. It is not just about budgets, though they are the thing to point to, it is also about suppressing political alternatives.

  9. ‘The Free-market, Hyper-individualism… and a Culture of Cruelty?’

    “A certain amount of callousness; disdain; and outright hatred must replace compassion, egalitarianism, and a sense of community cohesion if the neo-liberal version of “society” is to operate successfully.”

    Yes, you describe present day NZ Inc PERFECTLY, I see it all around me every single day, that is the summed up status quo we have, and like an abused child, those suffering under it rather go and abuse others as well, than wake up, and face their issues, and reform and seek recovery from their ills.

    A very SAD state of AFFAIRS we have, and this government is not going to be able to turn back the tide, not the way they are going so far.

  10. When atomised, alienated individuals rely on “The State” to take care of them at the expense of the politically and economically dominant culture, they are always at risk of that dominant culture eventually refusing to do so. That is simply a fact.

    The only answer is for atomised, alienated individuals to somehow learn to reorganise themselves into their own politically and economically self-supporting communities, strong enough in their own right to make State assistance completely unnecessary. This will also have the happy effect of making them the politically and economically dominant culture.

    In other words, we need to rediscover genuine Socialism, and abandon Statism as a failed project.

    1. So you suggest land occupations and the likes, to seize the assets and resources that would enable people to make a more independent living? I wonder how that can be realised and put into practice, with the share of wealth distribution we have, and the powers that be having a mercenary police force and military to their avail, to shift any dissenters off any properties they may occupy.

      Keep dreaming, such things will not happen without resolute, firm revolutionary action, which will necessitate forms of FORCE.

      1. Marc the powers that be, simply seized all those state owned assets for themselves, we as a population owned all those assets and resources, we built them we owned them we all benefited from them state management in the form of jobs and working conditions. It was redistributed into private ownership bye governments on both sides of the political divide to the people that financed their political party’s election campaigns, and that right there is the real problem in NZ, currently both parties are financed as 2 sides of the same coin, its just history repeating itself, the onset of colonialism here held the same treatment for the native peoples, which is also repeating itself, thats what happens when you dont teach your own history to your own children, do you see a pattern?

    2. Nobody, a District Court judge talked to me passionately about a specific patch north of Auckland (I think, my geography is lousy) with second and third generation beneficiary dependency, which he said no-one gave a damn about – and he alluded to Key and English in libelous terms. I researched the place later and it looked like a Fonterra issue impacting upon what had previously been a predominately productive dairying area.

      When a whole area is economically impacted, the dynamics can be overwhelming. Relocate a town or a village every time a mill or factory closes ? Disperse a complete community en masse ?

      These things are happening, and they will continue to happen. It is not unreasonable to expect central govt to lend a constructive and helping hand here, and consider how they can best make use of the human resources available. Do they ?

      They take the easy way out, provide benefits, entrench and enable feelings of helplessness, and ease the way for sanctimonious little prats to whinge online about beneficiaries lounging on often non-existent couches watching totally awful free- to- air television and thinking this is their choice.

      Socially and economically alienated folk aren’t necessarily in an optimum position to help themselves; fortunately there are some NGO’s working to help forge new pathways, and forge constructive pathways; they are nearly always under-funded; but were the ignorami to consider how to address the issue of what annoys them they may actually have something to contribute, but their need to be haters may, regretfully, preclude this from eventuating, and consign them to forever being urban cow pats.

    3. @Marc @Christine, thank you for your replies; underlying my comment is an assumption which should probably be stated more plainly – Socialism is not a set of guiding moral principles, it is a complete alternative political-economic system.

      If we practice socialism as an economic system, then we, the working class may decide, as happened in Mondragon, that we are no longer satisfied with living on the crumbs falling from the table of the State. Instead, we pool our talents and resources and we begin accumulating community property under collective ownership. The more we do this, the more secure and prosperous we become, and the less reliant we are on do-gooders and Statists.

      Even as I write this I can hear various sectors of the Left gasping. There is a Cult of Poverty which would keep the poor in poverty as a matter of virtue (this is a sickness with some). There are also those who regard the poor as their “constituents”, who fear losing their power if poverty were eliminated (this is evil).

      No, genuine Socialism is about prosperity, security and power for the working class. The practice of Socialist political economy frees us from dependence on the State, even as it frees us from poverty. If it does not accomplish this, then it is something else, a moral crusade, State Capitalism, what have you, but it is not Socialism.

      This is what we want. Not charity, not “a kinder, gentler society”, or “Capitalism with a Human Face”. We want Socialism.

      1. Sometimes it may also be possible to bring about change by working to modify what already exists, and by improving upon it.

        As with any ism, this largely depends upon society recognising the need for change and wanting to change – just like the light bulb…

        I suggest that any effective ism/political/economic system addresses the well-being of all citizens rather than transferring “power” from one group to another, and that any ism which rejects kindness and gentleness as attributes of a healthy society is just another form of what we already have now.

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