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  1. Sounds overly complicated: An annual Capital Value Levy on non-owner-occupied residential accommodation.

  2. Among the many problems of this tax system proposal is that it won’t have any level of bipartisan support. All effective tax systems have the support, at least to some extent, of both left and right.

    An effective tax system has to be able to withstand changes of government. This proposal fails that test. As soon as there was a change of government, it would be almost entirely repealed.

    Contrast that to the CGT, in Australia a relatively modest CGT first introduced by the Hawke government, has survived for multiple changes of government.

    The fundamental problem of this proposed system is that it is a radical economic revolution in disguise, essentially a form of extreme socialism.

    The reason I say that is the effect of farming, just to give an an example. Though the same would apply to virtually all businesses employing any more than 10 people. Virtually all farms are worth over $5 million, with many approaching $10 million. Such a farm owned by two people would still be $5 million per person A wealth tax of 3% on $5 million is $150,000. On top of income tax, this would strip out the entire profit. How on earth does farming and small to medium business survive such a tax system?

    All the proposal are about swinging taxes on wealth, effectively this means the value of business assets. Destroy the asserts of a business and you destroy the business.

    1. While you are correct about this proposal not being able to get bipartisan support (or any major party support?) your response also meets the definition of insanity which is to keep doing the same thing but expect a different result. As you mention farming is an obvious case where capital values are totally out of line with what the property can earn although this is also due to the majority of farmers only being average producers since they are farming for lifestyle & not high production. That means that an obvious implication of the proposed tax system could be that better-motivated owners lift production or that property values fall which would both be positive for renewing farm systems.
      While those with wealth have gotten used to having governments that protect their financial position the inevitable consequence of that is having most of the population owning very little, there have been numerous examples over the years where people power has reset the balance of power in a country although I would not like to see that happen in NZ which is why sensible proposals to adjust the distribution of wealth need to be considered.

      1. Do you really think it is reasonable that the typical family farm or typical small to medium size business (10 to 20 employees) has to be sold to pay an annual tax?

        I would also suggest that farms prices are not really that far out of line. A $10 million dairy farm will be 300 hectares and have 600 or so cows. A couple of farm workers. Such a business will generate around $300,000 profit after all costs (excluding interest) including an imputed salary for the owner/farm manager. So about a 3% return on capital.

        I can see the argument for wealth taxes on those who have great wealth (in my view mote than $50 million) but taxing small to medium businesses at a level that would destroy them seems crazy.

        Of course I don’t actually need to concern myself about such a tax. It is simply not going to happen. No major political party is going to promote such a tax, at least not at a level that would obviously destroy small to medium businesses.

  3. As a further fix for housing – give government first rights to buy any residential property not the family home that comes up for sale.
    Any house empty and not listed/rented for x months required to be sold.

  4. Always new that an FTT was good but just how good is it when combined with a scrapped scrapped GST? Transformative!

    Great proposal especially the CAT which as it only brings in $2billion can be let go in the horse trading with NZFirst.

  5. I keep seeing the word fair written down.
    Yet there is a proposal to take over half (60%) as a CAT for amounts over $50 million.
    How is it fair to take more than half of anything from anyone?
    One of the claims that a CAT is acceptable (have paid a small % of tax through their lives), sounds like a retroactive application of tax to me.

    1. Have a look at what taxes others pay when they have $50 million, we used to have a much higher tax rate for the super rich.

  6. An FTT over GST will be loved by small businesses due to its hassle and compliance cost and hated by their accountants who will lose half their lunch.

  7. A Wealth Tax, especially at this time, would suspend investment and in fact may possibly even decrease it. This would mean that tenants would be at the mercy of the richest, and mostly meanest, landlords.

    What I would like to see is an increase in cultures living here but a decrease in foreigners being able to invest here until they’ve lived here for a certain period of time. And be more flexible about the KiwiSaver regulations pertaining to home ownership. And be more generous with the government’s contribution to individual KiwiSaver accounts. That would open up and encourage investment opportunities amongst a whole new generation of New Zealanders. Now, don’t me wrong, I don’t have any issues with foreigners investing here but I do believe that they should at least have residency status and not be an overseas based company.

  8. With house prices the way they are, money is largely worthless.

    Some people are thick, but lots aren’t. The non-thick aren’t going to give 100% effort in a rigged system. They’ll say “thanks for the bread” and that will be that.

    The landed gentry will have some success in importing modern-day-slaves, but the global market for quality slaves is tight..

    They think they’re going to be able to build a stadium here in Christchurch, we will see.

  9. Out of idle curiosity, what is 1992’s $450,000 worth on today’s money?

    1. $830,000 for groceries. $1,097,000 for wages $3,750,000 for houses. Reserve Bank Inflation Calculator.

      1. Which is total crap.
        I have seen everything (but for my pay) at least double since 2016. Add on an extra quarter century and it’s going to be much more than what the reserve bank (part of the system) claims it is.

  10. Interesting! Its all about having a negative feedback system. Wealth begets wealth as an example of positive feedback. Positive feedback leads to excess and collapse. A fair system would be a negative feedback system. Negative feedback leads to stability. Bears considering and comparing feedback attributes.

  11. Roger Douglas has a lot to answer for. The Labour Party are still living with it.

    Our aging population is a media mantra.

    The abolition of the “welfare state” was brutal and even more brutally reinforced by R. Richardson (The “mother of all budgets”) and J. Shipley.
    We are all living with the utopian dreams of “free market bs”

    The special pleading of the business sector is an irrelevancy within the context of global pandemics and climate change. How much CO2 is pumped into the atmosphere by tourist ships and planes?

    Encouraging tourism encourages more CO2 emissions.

  12. Creating/printing money is by far and away the most regressive tax in use at the moment.
    It reduces working people’s wages in a compounded way. In the first year you loose the (average) 10-20%. The next year you loose it again plus the next 10-20% and so on. It’s been happening since the end of the 70s, accelerated after 2008 and is now totally out of control.
    At the same time real assets compensate in value – transferring wealth from people who live off income to the wealthy (those who live off assets).
    It also makes workers cheaper to employ so those assets become more efficient at generating wealth for the rich.
    It’s also, to most people, totally opaque and unnoticed. It helps that the measurement is calculated by the people benefiting from the scam – the ruling classes.

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