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  1. Agree 100%. In the same way Tamarind Malaysia walked away from Taranaki, leaving creditors owed hundreds of millions and an unplugged well. Place the local company that has the nominal responsibility into receivership and don’t look back. Even another $30 million subsidy to keep 2000 people employed for several years is actually a good spend compared to the economic and social cost of a massive increase in unemployment in Southland.

  2. Well now Martyn you have champion in Winston, Shane and NZF. Now that may mean a bit of “humble pie” but on Tiwai they are right on the button

  3. All vert true, Martyn.

    Unfortunately, when it comes to seizing assets there is a ‘slight; problem. The corporation doesn’t have any assets worth seizing. The land, buildings and equipment are liabilities, especially since they are heavily contaminated. Even if the world were not going bust, the equipment would have little value on the world market. And you can’t shift land or buildings.

    methinks attempts to seize intangible assets would result in lengthy litigation which would gobble up more that the value in lawyers fees.

    One has only to examine the record of oil companies, mining companies, chemical manufacturers etc. to see that the name of the game is to loot and pollute and poison, and then walk away -Bhopal chemical explosion, Hardy’s asbestos, Exxon Mobil Valdez oil spill, BP Deep Water Horizon, Shell in Nigeria and all that.

    1. All very true, Martyn.

      Unfortunately, when it comes to seizing assets there is a ‘slight’ problem. The corporation doesn’t have any assets worth seizing. The land, buildings and equipment are liabilities, especially since they are heavily contaminated. Even if the world were not going bust, the equipment would have little value on the world market. And you can’t shift land or buildings.

      Methinks attempts to seize intangible assets would result in lengthy litigation which would gobble up more that the value in lawyers fees.

      One has only to examine the record of oil companies, mining companies, chemical manufacturers etc. to see that the name of the game is to loot and pollute and poison, and then walk away -Bhopal chemical explosion, Hardy’s asbestos, Exxon Mobil Valdez oil spill, BP Deep Water Horizon, Shell in Nigeria and all that.

      In the case of Bhopal, the company responsible was taken over by another, which denied responsibility. Decades later no significant pay-out has been made to the surviving victims (many died) or their families.

      In the case of the Valdez oil spill (Alaska) decades later no significant pay-out was made, and remnants of the contamination remain.

      In the case of Deep Water Horizon the drilling should never have been attempted; it was done in a hurry; the response to the eruption of hydrocarbons into the waters of the Caribbean was inadequate; remnants of the contamination remain.

      In the case of Shell in Nigeria, large swathes of the land and sea have been rendered so toxic traditional activities of the local tribes [of growing crops and catching fish] are impossible. When a local leader became too troublesome, Shell arranged to have him murdered by ‘the authorities’.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Saro-Wiwa

      (My previous comment was done in a great hurry. There is now so little time to prepare for what is coming…not Christmas).

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