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  1. Not sure when market forces came to mean bailing out the richest companies from overseas, while local people access food banks.

    Why do we need to be concerned about their jobs, when apparently we import in 250,000 temp workers into NZ to lower wages in our fake employment crisis at the local cafe/fast food/rest home/farm.

    Not to mention the government rubber stamping giving away local water for polluting bottling, to get a pitiful amount of jobs when the plant is ‘at full capacity’ (whatever that means) (meanwhile not being concerned at the jobs being lost when universities close libraries costing 100 jobs)…

    Doesn’t seem to make sense, we give corporate welfare and benefits to the rich for jobs, but apparently we have so many jobs we need to import in 300,000 people each year and happy for public services to shed jobs in areas of social good!

    Not sure why more are not calling this discrepancy out, because the answer could solve many more so called crisis in NZ such as housing, health, education, Low wages and emergency benefits.

    Maybe it’s better to give the $30 million for the workers losing their jobs… or better still have legislate for very high, world class redundancy payments so people are not forced out into the streets with nothing every five minutes, only for the firm to rehire 5 minutes later while complaining they can’t get anyone as they are so lazy and drugged out. (being made redundant constantly and zero hour contracts, might have that effect on people).

  2. This wont lead to cheaper power prices if Tiwai goes. The money and infrastructure it would take to send this power north to where it is needed will never happen.

    1. Id say youre wrong. Of course it wouldnt happen immediately but Upgrading the infrastructure coud be done at the same rate that demand increases. Also the cheap South Island power woud attract some businesses south which is something that would be good for all that creaking North Island infrastructure.

  3. Oh shit Martyn you made me laugh at that suggestion to Rio Tinto threat to close again;
    “sounds like it’s time to extend their obscene corporate welfare again”

    It does Sound like they are trying it on again eh?

    I would carefully resist their threats here again until it was seriously shown to be needed.

    Or then who else will try the same threat should Labour fold here?. Fletchers, Fontera, Kiwi Rail, NZTA, big Oil, Air NZ and a heap of others?

  4. Rio Tinto get the cheapest power in NZ already, and hog up to 15% of the total available. Time to say “no more” after JFK’s last handout to them.

    A classic scenario where Etu Union will end up supporting Tory Provincial MPs and a very bad corporate citizen, for the sake of jobs. Close Ti Wai and NZ can close remaining non sustainable power generation.

    As for the workers, they will cling on like an Appalachian miner to those jobs, as they have done since 1961, but time to cut them loose. As tens of thousands were by “Roger’n’Ruth. Countryboy’s idea is a good one-worth paying off mortgages and generous settlements to see the back of Rio Tinto.

  5. Jacinda and Labour will be silly enough to bail them out, hopefully Winston and NZF will not be so stupid ?

  6. Hmmm. Rather Auckland-centric comments here.

    cf. Auckland film industry bailout, Auckland America’s Cup taxpayer largesse, Auckland multi-billion dollar railway. And who knows, bailout of Auckland Conference Centre if insurance turns dodgy.

    Sauce, goose, gander

    1. You do realise Auckland provides 1/3 of the nation’s tax revenue, don’t you? Nothing like that amount has ever been spent here. Auckland has major infrastructural deficits after the previous National government stuffed the place full to the gunwales with new migrants and didn’t spend a bean to provide for the increased services that requires.

      Rio Tinto can take a hike as far as I’m concerned. Southland desperately needs workers apparently, as evidenced by the vast number of overseas dairy workers residing there. It’d be no problem a to send them home and retrain the former smelter staff to milk cows. As a bonus, they’ll know all their employment rights; therefore any farmers currently exploiting their migrant workers would soon find out those days were over.

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