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  1. What we have is a 4 tier world. (1) ,At the bottom is the most vital to everything is the planet and its health.
    (2) there is us the people , governed by out “elected government”(s)
    (3) there is globalised big business that governs our governments
    (4) with co-operation with (3) there is global finance that decides all the priorities of the endeavours of everything.

    Nothing useful will happen until this order is exactly reversed. Banking and finance is not receiving the attention it has to have for any change to the order.
    D J S

  2. Yes Jane to all this;

    We need Government leadership to constantly to protect our future of our families and health and wellbeing and not just for allowing massive corporate profits and their ease of rights for stripping our environmental regulations.

    Quote; Professor Jane Kelsey; – “We need to re-empower governments because they have outsourced so much of what needs to be done and make sure that policy and regulatory space is not closed off by even more deals. But it is not enough to reassert the role of the state. States are not benign. Their alignment with capital and political and economic elites has to be constantly contested. National regulations can be even worse than the international agreements. Silenced voices – Maori, women, precarious workers, including migrants – which have been systematically disempowered by the state, by corporations and by agreements, need to be genuinely empowered in reformulated economic models and governance processes.”

  3. As individuals, humans are unpredictable. We don’t know what some will do or say or buy because they don’t know. Impulse guides a decision to add tomàto sauce just as it does what high school you attend but countries don’t care about individuals, they care about groups and the beauty about demography is that groups are predictable. Of course nothing is certain, theories compete and estimates vary but it’s much easier to predict how many 18 year olds well have what in 30 years and in general what they’ll be doing than say 30 years of foreign policy or culture and trade. No country has yet figured out how to manufacture 18 year olds and that means population today is a good peak at population tomorrow. When this information is combined with geopolitics or economics it goes from mildly interesting to down right powerful.

    First you’ve got consumers from 18 to 35 and they’re spending on schools, taking out loans, savings? Not so much. Despite what old people say about millennials, consumer spending is one of the biggest contributors to economic growth.

    Next are the money makers. These people are 45 to 65. These people have payed off there debts and now they’re saving for retirement. Even though this group is marginally smaller than consumers they generate most of the income. They alone pay half of all income tax and makes them a governments best friend.

    At aged 65 people are done working, and largely done spending. What’s special about this group is how dramatically it begins. In a single day this group goes from the highest tax payers to paying almost no tax in just one day as they slowly collect super or WINZ.

    Population growth is important, New Zealand could be 10 million population or 3 million population, either way no problem. But what’s more important is the balance between all three groups, that’s why a population pyramid is so important. When you’ve got a high birth rate at the bottom you’ll have a high death rate at the top so there must be balance.

    New Zealand imports a lot of ready to go workers leaving huge bulges in “consumer groups” and huge bulges in “money making demographics” that are inverting the population pyramid. Remember these huge groups of workers will one day and quite suddenly retire as they start waiting for the checks to arrive. But the group responsible for writing those checks or funding them is getting smaller and smaller at the bottom so under 18 year olds are becoming less and less compared to immigration swelling the higher ups inverting the pyramid.

    It’s not just financial, a single person will have to look after 2 parents and 4 grandparents. Again inverting the pyramid and we’ll be selling more adult diapers than infant ones.

    So yeah. Being in control of immigration policy and caring for woman’s rights and woman’s justice is hugely important right now so we can bring balance back.

    As for trade I say we give David Parker about 2 million highly educated and highly payed renewable energy industry based workforce and economy so him and Winston has the consumption and production to horse trade.

    David Parker may not be the perfect progressive trade minister but he does have something. Can’t quite put my finger on it, maybe it’s the way him and Winston make Todd McClay look silly, and Grosser what a muppet he was, and Brownly, used to brake my heart thinking of them representing New Zealand so maybe it is progress of a kind.

  4. And while we wrestle with the economic repercussions of the new world order, we have an underlying situation that puts us on a juggernaut hurling us all over a cliff. I refer to a crisis in the crumbling moral compass of western civilization.We talk of Saudi Arabia and Israel being rogue states. Yet that they have committed these vile crimes before our eyes is because the West is embroiled in a criminal matrix involving an attempt to perpetuate the U.S Empire and hegemony , and control the world.This criminal conspiracy led by the U.S., is supported unquestionably by the vassal states Canada, Australia, N.Z., the Nato European countries, and by its toxic partners Israel and Saudi Arabia.That Israel and the Saudi’s can commit any crimes at all with relative impunity is because all in the Matrix turn a collective blind eye.Who attacked Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq ,Libya., Syria, Yemen, and threatens Venezuela ,Lebanon,and Iran as we speak? The West, that once promised peace, general prosperity and an advancing Democracy instead delivers militarism, continuous war,greed, ever increasing inequality, surveillance, fake news and propaganda.
    And what does plucky little N.Z. do? We polish up our criminal 5 eyes surveillance membership,we ignore the crimes committed by our matrix partners, we participate militarily in Afghanistan and Iraq, our Prime Minister grovels prettily to our Western partners in crime at international events, with baby Neve Blair in tow to create photo opportunities.
    Make no mistake, 90% of the problems on the planet originate from the greed of the Western/Saudi/Israeli alliance. We are collectively a blight on the planet!If you want to sound off at the instigators of the ruination that the planet is undergoing, look in the mirror. Yes, like it or not we in NZ are collectively guilty and responsible .And what are we doing about It !!!

    1. Ahem, there must have been a boozy ‘session’ going on in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, dear Pete, Kashoggi somehow seems to have got tied up in a brawl, and someone then locked his head into an arm lock, so he was by accident choked to death.

      I listened to the BBC, I listened to other media, I watched the crappy NZ ‘news’ on TV, I listened to now so conformist RNZ (since John Campbell has moved on), and nobody really likes to talk about the truth, the logical conclusions, it is all ‘unresolved’ so to say, oh, ahem, we wait and see, a bit like the nasty fascist in the White House, who thinks what the new release by the Saudi Royals and their media makes ‘sense’.

      We have a regime, that kills, tortures and does anything as it chooses, that also finances terrorists here and there, of course similar to what the Iranians also do, and because they control the oil trade, or much of it, because Trump signed a massive deal with them, and because other governments and corporates signed their massive deals for money, they cannot be treated too ‘harshly’, oh forgive me, not so harshly.

      Money corrupts, trade corrupts, wealth and power corrupts, we have now evidence of Chinese donors influencing National Party politics and candidacy selection, we have endless prove of other corruption, we have a government claiming to be so different, but choosing to stay so damned silent on all this, what a damned disgrace for this country and its population.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/for-1st-time-saudis-say-jamal-khashoggi-killed-in-consulate/2018/10/19/6552f7ac-d3fe-11e8-a4db-184311d27129_story.html?utm_term=.bad1174e8669

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/20/donald-trump-says-he-finds-saudi-explanation-of-khashoggi-death-credible

      https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/nice-try-sarah-huckabee-sanders/13561/

      The ‘great reformer’, ffs:
      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/20/watch-white-house-briefs-press-after-trump-meets-saudi-prince.html

      A criminal of great calibre, in my view:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_bin_Salman

      1. Here’s another angle on Mr Trump’s reluctance to condemn MBS.
        http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13970728001103
        But some other articles from the same site give a bit of an angle on MBS’s own position. He might be becoming toxic to the rest of the Saudi family as he demolishes their relationships with the world.
        Also it gives a sense of no-one being safe in the Saudi hierarchy .So things might change quite soon.
        D J S

  5. Long post, will need to read it again, as it contains so much info.

    But re China, it is slowing, it is slowing, and no economy will grow forever, that will have consequences for all of us.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2018/oct/19/china-growth-slowest-since-financial-crisis-as-trade-war-looms-business-live

    The growth obsession is like a trick to enslave people into debt, to hope and pray, that growth will continue, so they can pay off the borrowed money they take from the banks.

    As all is so absolutely dependent on fossil fuel exploitation and use, we are having NO sustainable and feasible future that can be left to coming generation.

    I pity those having newborns now, I am sorry, I really do, there is a hopeful feeling in new mothers and fathers, but that is hormone driven, natural of course, the reality is very, very dark and disturbing, we have not much hope for a good future for humanity.

    NO matter how great efforts may be made, the fossil fuel cannot and will not be replaced by renewables any time soon, and not in sufficient quantity, to continue with the totally wasteful, short sighted and dumb lifestyles most modern urbanised humans have adopted.

    It is going to turn very nasty soon, we are seeing just one example here:
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/honduran-migrant-caravan-advances-fortified-borders-181019203930805.html

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6295861/Caravan-thousands-Honduran-migrants-TURN-Mexican-border-Guatemala.html

    It is just the beginning, like also the thousands trying to cross the Mediterranean every week.

    Climate change and economic crisis situations are driving thousands, yes millions out of their own home countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis
    https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

    And the day will come that NZ Inc will see thousands come to these shores, that is those that may not choose and manage to come by air.

    Meanwhile fascist Trump will send in the army, I suppose.

    1. I agree.

      There is plenty of rearranging of the deck chairs in the Titanic (or talk about rearranging the deck chairs in the Titanic) but there is no fundamental change: the growth-based financial system will not allow fundamental change. That is why the environmental movement was crushed long ago (mid-1970s to mid-1980s).

      In addition to the commercial aspects, people living in highly industrialised nations like NZ have been systematically lied to and will not give up the lifestyle benefits that result from high energy consumption, even when they are short term and are effectively robbing their own children/grandchildren of a future.

      Therefore, fossil fuel use will continue until fossil fuels become unaffordable or unobtainable. The slow collapse we are witnessing will then morph into a rapid collapse.

      Overheating of the planet we have been witnessing remains unaddressed because there is no way to address fossil fuel addiction and the commensurate emissions within the framework of the commercially-driven industrial civilisation we live in.

      We are faced with the dismal prospect of business-as-usual until BAU is no longer possible.

  6. By far the most effective counter to globalised trade is surely being enacted by Trump. Sanctions imposed and threatened all over the world. That damage not only the target country or government but any business that is trading with them is exposing dramatically the hazard of becoming globally interdependent . He is using the global integration of business as a weapon . Forcing Russia , China , Iran , Venezuela, Syria etc. to become self sufficient. Surely world leaders in Europe can see that globalisation has gone too far for economic safety when it can and is being so exploited.
    D J S

    1. While tariffs are making a come back free trade theory? What was that again? Nations still tip the scales in a lot of ways. Meanwhile the free movement of people is rejected (who wants 2nd class citizens) and the anti-establishment (who doesn’t want immigrants period), even though labour is more important to economics than any mere traded good. As for the EU, the EU has painfully illustrated what happens when you have a currency union without a fiscal union, and the latter isn’t going to happen at all. Free movement of ideas, well, if you’d asked me in 2014 I’d say it was a net good, but after 2018 my opinion of media’s role in society is approaching a record nadir. Globalisation is a fanciful ideal, and those who idolize it have intentionally or unintentionally caused a lot of exploitation and other problems.

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