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  1. “In sum, Three Waters is the culmination of a grand intellectual pincer movement.”

    I wouldn’t say intellectual exactly. More ‘faux academic’ endeavour based on half truths and in some cases outright lies.

    At least it’s brought the issue to a head. The plotters have at long last played their cards. So now we just vote in a government that will write good constitutional law and slam the door on this malfeasance forever.

  2. The government’s 3 waters message may be; “you can’t stop this” Pakeha NZ.

    But the counterpoint is “why not”. There’s an election next year and the Labour Party along with its Maori caucus can be voted out. If this happens, a new centre right government is bound to overturn any decisions relating to 3 waters and He Puapua made by the current government.

    Actually I think this could be the defining issue of the next years election campaign. And I think that the main centre right parties (National and Act) will ramp up their opposition to 3 Waters, co govenance and especially He Puapua as the campaign itself ramps us.

    There is a general uneasiness in NZ on these matters, which is mainly understated I think, but lies just beneath the surface. It would take much to stir it into action.

  3. Fact check for you Chris: The farm fencing in the Dairy and Clean Streams Accord did not lead to overall improved water quality. In fact, designed to avoid governmental regulation, it put power to address dairy effluent and nutrient run-off into the hands of the industry. No region ever achieved full compliance, water quality did not improve, and in some areas effluent and nutrient run-off got worse. Rivers got dirtier under the Clean Streams Accord. These days 95% of NZ’s waterways that run through pastoral land, are contaminated on at least one indicator.
    And on dairy cow numbers, it is not true that the dairy herd has never exceeded six million: Stats NZ says ‘Between 1990 and 2019: dairy cattle numbers increased by 82 percent nationally from 3.4 million to 6.3 million. Canterbury dairy cattle increased tenfold (973 percent) from 113,000 to 1.2 million
    Southland dairy cattle increased sixteen-fold (1,584 percent) from 38,000 to 636,000. At ‘peak cow’ there were almost 6.5million dairy cows.

    1. What’s 500,000 cows between friends!

      But, I stand corrected, Christine. Thank you for the fact-check.

      Although (there’s always an although) I do detect a wee bit of the perfect being the enemy of the good in your critique of the Clean Streams Accord. Did the cockies achieve everything they set out to achieve? No. Did they give it a damn good try? Yes.

  4. All I can say is who uses most of our water and who truly is the privileged ones in our country. We should do an audit and see and make the results public knowledge.

  5. All I can say is who uses most of our water and who truly is the privileged ones in our country. We should do an audit and see and make the results public knowledge.

  6. I am not against having appropriate co-governance over water with Maori.

    I am not against centralisation of water.

    I am against politicisation, denigration of democracy and economic and practical waste driven by ideologues who dont have the real life experience and the economic wherewithal to do the job probably. I am against lies, propaganda and manipulation.

    If the Ardern Govt had told the truth we would not have at least 50% of Maori convinced they must have self determination because Colonialism is the author of all their woes. They should have been told that yes, Maori and others need solutions, yes there is still racism around that needs more work but actually, you are suffering due to our class bashing Neo Liberal agenda. And we will fix that by giving you cheap houses where you can put down roots and we will ensure your kids are able to have food on the table and get a good education.

    But we chose instead the path of division, partisanship and waste and where does it ultimately lead? Civil war? You cannot give more rights to 15% of the population and expect the other 85% to accept it because something bad happened 150 years ago. It ultimately will not stand and it wont be no good for anyone.

    Ardern is not a hapless victim dragged along by the Maori Caucus, she made this choice and thinks she is being transformational. Effing hubris! IRL, we should substitute ‘transformational’ for the more accurate “destructive”.

    1. We already gave rights to a minority when the TOW was signed and the flood gates opened that is colonisation

  7. The title ‘Radical remedies’ shows how tired and dated the old left think tanks have become.

  8. If a company on the stock exchange offered only 28% accountability to shareholders that invested all their money in it, that company would be seen as a high risk.

    Consequently, a lack of accountability up front – a channel for any valid and necessary criticism by shareholders – in an infrastructure project does not engender confidence that the requisite risk mitigation strategies will be present at the engineering level, nor that they will be appropriately addressed if identified.

    The key problem is that risks bound up in infrastructure projects don’t sit in isolation – they have an onflow effect. Those risks will wind up impacting the risk profile of every other company on the stock exchange – along with every other private commercial entity out there.

    Competency, accountability and transparency are closely correlated with an ability to deliver

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