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  1. Way to go to sign up to uncle Sam and line up to fry in the war against China that the US is planning.
    The war in Ukraine is intended to spread to a war over Taiwan.
    The US officially recognises Taiwan as part of China, but cynically plans to make China’s sovereignty a pretext to go to war with it.
    NZ out of all military alliances East and West!
    NZ workers organise strike action to oppose governments signing up to WW3!
    The workers of the world want a future where we are not all drafted to kill one another in the interests of the capitalist ruling classes.
    Our only war is the class war!
    Our only enemy is the class enemy!

  2. Beijing or NATO, which side here best serves our interests? To date, the answer here is dead simple with no inclination that things are going to change anytime soon. Beijing does not have a history of war, despite its long, long history, NATO on the other hand, war is all it knows.

    If the NZ government wishes to side with NATO, then we, the people, should get a say, an ability to vote on this choice because the consequences of this choice for us all, are potentially dire!

    If we don’t get to vote on this clearly weighty matter then democracy, to say the very least. is but an illusion in this country.

  3. This is crazy.
    The Western Alliance is breaking up. Japan ignores the US ban on importing Russian gas. Macron is attempting to leave the NATO madness of extending the war in Ukraine and coming war over Taiwan at the expense of their economies.
    The prospect of US building a NATO + in the Asia Pacific is being undermined by economic reality that to survive as nations we cannot risk everything in a war between great powers over who rules the world.
    US warmongering has led to the strengthening of the Russia China bloc which is advancing its own security agreements and a new reserve currency against the US$.
    The doubling of the BRICS of new members and prospective members to include Iran, Saudi, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Mexico, Pakistan, Turkey, and Venezuela proves that the Western alliance around the US is falling apart.
    Why should NZ jump on a US bandwagon which is sinking? For what?
    Why should NZers who have no interest in tying their future to either the Western or Eastern blocs agree to joining a drive to WW3 that could end life on the planet?

  4. “…..the extraordinary signals from defence minister Andrew Little that Wellington could soon join non-nuclear components of the AUKUS pact between Australia, the United Kingdom and United States.”
    Geoffrey Miller

    There is no non-nuclear components of the AUKUS pact.

    The AUKUS pact is in breach of the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that New Zealand is a signatory to.

    New Zealand was one of the first signatories of the NPT, which entered into force in 1970. Today 190 countries are states parties to the treaty. Only India, Israel, Pakistan and South Sudan have never joined the NPT (North Korea announced its withdrawal in 2003). We continue to encourage these states to join the treaty as non-nuclear weapon states and to place all of their nuclear facilities under comprehensive International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards.

    https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/peace-rights-and-security/disarmament/weapons-of-mass-destruction/nuclear-non-proliferation-treaty/#:~:text=Under%20the%20treaty%20non%2Dnuclear,peaceful%20use%20of%20nuclear%20technology.

    New Zealand should have nothing at all to do with it.

  5. Is Australia is about become the graveyard of the US end of life nuclear submarine fleet?

    The long term implications of Australia’s acceptance of nuclear powered submarines have never been made public. Has the US agreed to take them back and dispose of them when they reach their end of life?

    That is highly unlikely

    Australia may have been better served if they had adopted New Zealand’s nuclear free policy.

    Th AUKUS nuclear pact is being sold to the Australian public as creating 20,000 jobs. But a leaked report shows that US owned and operated nuclear powered and armed submarines will be permanently stationed in Australian ports on both the West and East coast of Australia. After that Australia will take over ownership and operation of at least 5 second hand US nuclear powered submarines.
    My guess is the promise of Aussie built nuclear subs that delivers 20,000 jobs will never eventuate. The 20,000 jobs will disappear like smoke as the economic reality sets in, that it is cheaper to keep buying US built second hand nuclear submarines.

    If there are to be any jobs, it will be in the eventual scrapping and disposal of these irradiated vessels, either on land or in the deep ocean. The logical extension, is that the obsolete Australian nuclear submarines will be followed to their Australian dump site by US owned and obsolete and heavily irradiated nuclear vessels.

    The benefit for the US is that US will not have the problem of deciding what to do with their irradiated nuclear submarines when they reach end of life. That will be Aussie’s problem.

    “According to leaked details, from the next decade, Australia will purchase between three and five current US Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarines.”

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/aukus-update-twenty-thousands-jobs-needed-to-build-nuclear-powered-submarines-fleet/9f3fc66d-22c8-4d69-9279-c1a961a38f44#:~:text=From%202027%2C%20the%20US%20will,submariners%20to%20man%20the%20fleet.

    The easiest political strategy to sell the AUKUS package is to present it as a job-creation program.
    This is an appealing path for the federal government, given Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s yearning for “an Australia that make things”. Albanese’s Twitter account has published tweets extolling the economic benefits of the deal, but none about what the submarines will actually do to make Australians safer.

    Australian nuclear sub construction if it ever does go ahead as a “job creation scheme”, it will probably go down as the most expensive job creation scheme in human history.

    ……the 20,000 jobs the government says the program will directly create over the next 30 years will cost more than $18 million apiece.

    How many new Doctors Nurses, teachers, and climate workers could be trained and put to work for the cost of training and deploying only one nuclear submarine worker?

    The biggest boondoggle in history?

    The joke is on Australia.

  6. “For one thing, it means Jacinda Ardern’s presence at last year’s NATO summit in Madrid was not just a one-off move to show solidarity with NATO countries in the immediate aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    Second, it shows how New Zealand is continuing to forge a more hardline foreign policy stance under Hipkins’ leadership.”

    Which is why I won’t vote for Labour at this election, or any other political party that supports this direction New Zealand is taking.

  7. The Neocon crowd with a PUNAC outlook are firmly in control of US foreign policy. The last 20 years of perpetual war fpr a perpetual piece-of-the-pie worked out so well for them.

    There was a once in centuries opportunity for détente in the 90s and even early 2000’s when the US held all the cards. See how those cards were played and remember the same people are still running Washington DC. It would be foolish to join NATO now and essentially give up any remaining pretence of an independent foreign policy (and potentially trade policy) while being subject to the whims of the highly competent neoliberal ideologues at Pentagon and State.

    Let’s not forget how well other Pacific nations have faired in an asymmetric partnership with the US.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa8jiD8bxA

    China is no saint either, there is much to criticise but I suspect the real sin from Washington’s perspective is that while China has free markets it has refused to become part of the neoliberal order so is not open to exploitation by US corporations.

    US power and influence is waning and it is retreating into a closed network of ‘friendly’ nations where it will retain veto power on trade, foreign and military policy. However after decades of corporatist exploitation, much of the post Cold War goodwill has evaporated and few countries, especially in the global south, trust the US any longer. Even within Europe, NATO ministers ‘don’t want to know’ about Nordstream and denial can only last so long. IMO France is likely to chart it’s own path with growing influence in the EU and Francophone Africa.

    It strikes me that NATO’s new strength is not borne of rediscovered solidarity, but out of opposition to Russia. If there is nothing to oppose then NATO cohesion will weaken.

    It seems perpetual war is in the interests of both the US military industrial complex and NATO.

  8. Chinese Embassy in Wellington issued a statement noting Beijing’s opposition to ‘all kinds of military alliances, bloc politics, or exclusive small groups’, …

    Errr, BRICS, China/North Korea, China/Russia Alliance.

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