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  1. That was an interesting tour of history, thanks Chris! A few random points and thoughts:

    Cardinal Pacelli required that his flock, who were members of the Catholic Centrist Party, vote for Hitler (he foolishly did a deal with Hitler). It was this block vote of about 35% of the population that put Hitler into power.

    I’m so pleased you mentioned JFKs crooked election (seems the Democrats haven’t changed since!) because not many people know about that or refute it having deified Kennedy. I think he is only viewed in a good light today because he was shot before he could do more damage. LOL

    It is beyond ironic that the rule of subsidiary is enshrined in Article 5 of the treaty of the EU, with the EU having turned into a massive bureaucracy ruled by unelected Brussels bureaucrats whose only solutions are ‘one size fits all’.

    In parallel to the subsidiary rule there is a rule called the ‘contingency theory of management’, which states that every decision is unique and should be made on its individual merits and circumstances. So should we make local government smaller? Well, it depends on the details and the circumstances! On the positive side the Auckland super city gave us a chance to develop an integrated motorway system that is a vast improvement on the old. It gave us a city wide integrated and sewage transport and treatment plan that will remedy water pollution problems that go back a LONG way before Rogernomics. But the super city also gave us disempowered local boards, a powerful unelected bureaucrat class and a feeling of dissociation among the voters, so we now get an appalling voter turn out and buffoons for councillors elected by a tiny minority. Mixed blessings.

    Meanwhile in central government we have seen a massive 41.3% increase in core expenditure in just four years. 3 Waters offers us just another layer of unelected bureaucrats and Labour’s ‘fair pay agreement’ scheme will mean that a cleaner in Invercargill will earn the same as one in Auckland, despite having half the cost of living. So it seems they haven’t heard of your subsidiary theory!

    1. Andrew I have the feeling that you wish to detract from efforts of the lower and middle class towards betterment. Your task seems, to point out the many failings, of those criticising the methods of the capitalist class – a sort of sneer of ‘Let’s see you do it better then – ‘bet you can’t.. The thought has just hit me – what if humans think best when they are so stretched that they have to concentrate with every fibre, and learn who to trust by smell, could be called a Primitive Sensitive. And watch Babylon 5 replays – they had to administer in space a domicile space platform for a large number of other beings from space, not just different sorts of terrestials. That was a problem in achieving all-species rules and social culture. It was totally new, so nothing to compare it unfavourably too. From here on nothing is going to be like it was, which has always been the case you’d say, but this is even more so now. Frankly I think my ramblings here are just as relevant as yours were at 8.48 am even with dotted with a few stats.
      But I’ll give again the last words of WH Auden in Sept.1/1939
      Yet, dotted everywhere,
      Ironic points of light
      Flash out wherever the Just
      Exchange their messages:
      May I, composed like them
      Of Eros and of dust,
      Beleaguered by the same
      Negation and despair,
      Show an affirming flame.
      (I wondered how Babylon came to my mind.)
      https://poets.org/poem/september-1-1939

    2. Good, so the fair pay agreement will allow people to get higher wages and cheaper housing (by leaving Auckland). That should address the problem of a shortage of affordable housing in Auckland.

    3. The contingency theory. I wonder if that has some relation to marginality. When does one know that adding one more bylaw or road plan, or stadium, or bridge, is too much? I suppose it occurs when one is working out the projected profits a decade from now and could be called ‘the jam next year’ theory.

  2. Thank you Chris, one of your greatest essays.
    The “big is beautiful” ideology is warned about in the Tower of Babel story. That story and it’s implications for us today superbly explained here, as he says in it “too big to fail” is incorrect – it should be “so big it has to fail”
    https://youtu.be/NFkLN5YPr8k

  3. Forgive my current crankiness- I have covid- but to summarize New Zealand’s current situation in crude working mans terms:

    We are governed by a circle jerk of Wellington bureaucrats who dream up and write legislation in their Wellington bubble, which is then enacted by the Labour government, which is the political arm of the Wellington bureaucrats.
    Everything is top down and inward facing, resulting in ever crazier and more out of touch laws – the over reach and complication of alert setting 4.3.phase 2, orange setting for example, lost the public long ago for example. No the public didn’t all see the Wellington protests as a “river of filth” like Wellington did, observe Labour large poll drop after.
    Or the gender alphabet, no one actually gives a shit if you want to identify as a pineapple go crazy, no laws needed tho and you don’t have to teach it to kids.
    3 waters and health now threaten to tear away more local control to the ever burgeoning central government circle jerk.
    Core government spending is up 47% and heading to over 65% increase in the next year according to DPF. Bureaucrats clogging the arteries of life for everyone and adding more of themselves, consultants, lawyers making huge money, yet all our problems much worse.
    It’s my opinion that this government some time ago slipped in to the “dictator trap” where being surrounded by same-think (Wellington) makes the government blind to what the country really wants and needs.
    They’re essentially insane.
    Totally agree need more local democracy not less.
    At one time there were moves to decentralize more government departments away from Wellington but I note the opposite has occurred under this government.

    1. Correction -core government spending currently up 41.3% as per Andrew’s post above

  4. I have ants – all among the cluttered bench, they assiduously run in straight lines (not argentinian ants that set up multi-lanes – yikes). I am not sanguine abut them and watch numbly. They are dedicated, the scouts that I can see. Running along checking into the oncoming ones for latest intelligence, they touch feelers and hurry on. We need a dose of ant ingredient now. We have to check in and be sure of our purpose, and our direction.
    That image at the top struck me immediately – we’re like ants. Have our brains fried and we have run too fast and lost our purpose, our direction? We are better than ants, better than gorillas as Kevin Kline said in A Fish Called Wanda, ‘I’m not a gorilla , a gorilla couldn’t read Niieztsche. Yes he could replies Jamie Lee, He just couldn’t understand it.’ That’s us clever and ironic and protean. Let’s brush up on our philosophy, (the practical sort, that doesn’t concentrate on perception – and inform us like magicians whipping away the cloth that covers our eyes saying ‘Voila, there is nothing there’. This is just a party trick to point out that we look and interpret to ourselves what we see, and then society names it, and we can direct other people’s attention to it. Very helpful. Can we see ‘climate’ and if we name it can we decide what to do aboit iot? God says, ‘ You did it, don’t expect me to make it right for you.’

  5. Subsidiarity was a means by which the Mussolini provided 1929 Vatican City State sought to rationalise state funding delivered by church administration. Education, health, housing and welfare by Catholics for Catholics rather than via state institutions. It was the churches way of maintaining a place in modern society (and no it did not require democracy – thus the Centre Party deal over Catholic schools within Europe under the reich), the template today is probably the USA.

    1. Was Catholic education the connection that brought the Catholic church too close to the Nazis and raised bitterness against the church? It seems like they are sucking on a lemon when the subject comes up.

      1. The Catholic laity based Centre Party sought to apply subsidiarity as self-preservation within the reich, as per independence within a democracy where they are not majority (as USA). The policy was designed as one for all local political environments.

        As to the politics of the 1930’s, the Church (Catholic and Lutheran) had the problem that resistance to fascist nationalism was with the secular left/communist and socialist (the non Catholic centre was in decline).

  6. The points made by a lot of the guys on this thread in regards to democracy are very interesting. The reason why I personally believe in democracy is because unless one partakes in the law making process in his or her own Homeland, one does become somewhat of a puppet for those who do attain this type of power. Unfortunately, though, extreme social legislation does not follow a democratic road in any so-called democratic nation. This will only change if the ultra liberal laws which have been enacted, spawns a rotten culture at some point in the future.

  7. Very insightful Chris, real food for thought to those of us less aware of the origins and importance of subsidiarity.

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