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  1. The question I would like answered, as with the ferry grounding in the Marlborough Sounds, is
    Why the hell are those vessels even fitted with auto pilots ?
    They both worked in restricted waters and auto pilots are only required with bridge crew shortages, which should never occur.

  2. Another dept run by a hate filled woman .The current government is hell bent on metering out punishment on people who were on the front line during covid .Just look at the shit being dished out to the low paid workers now .You remember all the supermarket workers ,cleaners ,truck delivery drivers ,police and defence force .
    So now this minister has cut funding for operations and housing but will happily buy billions of dollars worth of hardware to fight a war that will never happen .No wonder ships are sinking or tied up at the wharf and planes cant fly to Aus because we dont have spares to keep them flying .

    1. Your hate of National clouds your thinking .The run down of our armed forces was speeded up by Labour who used these fighting forces to enforce covid mandates .Many resigned . National are now trying to rebuild our armed forces .

  3. A comedy of errors. An expensive one. The $70 odd million could be spent on better things.

    Under trained? Incompetence? Human error? Well … all three. But it seems like a rushed operation from the beginning and Judith Collins admitted as much when interviewed on Q&A a few months back, that the crew in good part were inexperienced, ie, learning on the job because more a experienced crew were unavailable at short notice. If the case, surely the RNZN command needs to take some responsibility. So easy to lay the blame elsewhere.

  4. Reminds me of Vincent O’Sullivan’s play Shuriken. O’Sullivan’s play was of a different time and had a very different message but the outcome is much the same: misunderstandings, disaster, blame, soul searching.

    Go for it @ MB!

  5. Well I did my marine tickets back in the day. Could never get a job with them of course – closed shop of Poms.

    None of these officers were fit – and nothing absolves a captain of their responsibilities.

    The going to the loo bit merely highlights the incompetence.

    The whole LGBTQ bit was a Parthian shot by the pathetic responsible minister Collins.

    That whole chain of command should be gone.

  6. The Swiss Cheese model. The same thing that (generally) causes planes to crash. The fact that it happened speaks to some pretty significant systemic failures

  7. Welcome to New Zealand… why do things properly when we have no 8 fencing wire.

    Unfortunately our best and brightest leave for bigger and better countries so we have an excessive number of people who are promoted beyond their level of incompetence. This problem is compounded because the incompetence protects the incompetent, and forces the competent to go elsewhere, or to keep their heads down.

    Ultimately it’s up to the captain and the XO to ensure that the training of the bridge officers are up to standard, before those officers can stand watch. The captain or XO should be on the bridge while the ship is entering or leaving port, or in this case when the ship was so close to the reef. That being said the reliance on technology should not be at the expense of seamanship.

    1. So true, and we maintain this completely unsubstantiated arrogance that we’re so much better then the rest of the world. We take pride in what are often substandard approaches, fueled as you say by “no 8 fencing wire”.

      My favorite example is the CAA, an organization completely unfit for purpose.

  8. Welcome to New Zealand… why do things properly when we have no 8 fencing wire.

    Unfortunately our best and brightest leave for bigger and better countries so we have an excessive number of people who are promoted beyond their level of incompetence. This problem is compounded because the incompetence protects the incompetent, and forces the competent to go elsewhere, or to keep their heads down.

    Ultimately it’s up to the captain and the XO to ensure that the training of the bridge officers are up to standard, before those officers can stand watch. The captain or XO should be on the bridge while the ship is entering or leaving port, or in this case when the ship was so close to the reef. That being said the reliance on technology should not be at the expense of seamanship.

  9. Oh I gave up reading after you came in defending the DEI Pome Captain, the incompetence came from the top down, don’t try to divide or defuse the situation into micro events, the captain was and is an idiot and someone the should never have been in charge end of effing story.

  10. And the minister still refuses to appologise to those people in care who were tortured .She says there was no torture while she was in charge even tho we are now paying those who were tortured a paltry $150k to shut them up .

  11. Isn’t it the captain’s responsibility to ensure there are trained and competent people on the bridge?

    This disaster began right at the top but as usual they’ll hang the person at the pointed end out to dry.

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