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  1. Now now now Martyn. This isn’t ‘modern day slavery’. It’s ‘modern day blackbirding’. There’s a DIFFERENCE (semantic).

  2. ‘Backtracking work for a pittance’ – well, you want cheap fruit and veges don’t you?

    1. Here’s a few facts about the labour cost of apples, to take an example.
      Piece rate per bin is on average $32. It can range from $15 to $45 depending on whether the apples are for juice or export.
      Weight per bin is 350kg.
      Average weight of apple is 180g.
      So, let’s say an experienced worker picks 8 bins per day.
      This is 2800kg of apples, or roughly 15,000 apples. You need to pick one every 1.8 seconds. You get paid 1.7 cents per apple.
      I don’t know about how tight you are, but you’d have to have a pretty spiteful streak to moan about paying 2.5 or even 3.5 cents extra per apple to make the work attractive to kiwis.
      Another reason why they hate kiwis is because the RSE workers pay an extortionate rate to share a dorm with a number of other workers, so the orchard owners claw back a significant portion of the wages as rent.

      1. Thanks Rangi, it’s good to see some real information about the situation. It seems that those with wealth are usually reluctant to pay those working for them a decent wage as they consider it a direct cost to them instead of taking the wider view that it is creating a better society that helps them also.

  3. Denial of the right to strike is by any other name, forced labour.

    The distinction between that and slavery isn’t great.

  4. Rangi has it completely right.
    Back in the 1980s when I first started working in orchards fruit growers were becoming millionaires and the Fruit Growers Federation organised to keep wages as low as possible. Members who wanted to pay more were pressured by their fellows to keep rates low( ‘The Grapes Of Wrath’ by John Steinbeck is fiction but it has an accurate portrayal of such tactics by landowners).
    When export fruit prices fell growers bitterly complained they would not be able to afford a new Range Rover after all, that their big-game launch in the Bay of Islands might have to be sold, that their wife was unhappy that the planned Pacific Islands cruise was on hold, the struggle to pay for their children’s private school.
    They could tell you about their early struggles, on land with established fruit trees that they inherited, under the burden of generous export incentives and cheap credit, to finally give them the reward they richly deserved from their grandparents hard work.
    With their workers sleeping on the floors of rented rooms and in their vehicles, washing in cold water, cooking in kitchens shared with ten others, fruit growers complained they found it difficult to recruit and retain staff.
    And like all champions of the Free Market system when times are tough they trumpet; ‘The government should help us!’

    1. Thanks Stevie for another real world example of life. The sense of entitlement among those who already have enough never fails as they are immune to the suffering of anyone else.

  5. The list of should haves is an Iwi Supermarket so why have Ngi Tahu set one up .They have a portfolio worth millions in farms and land so if the returns were there they could set one up on their land and supplied with their produce.
    Who would sit in a Maori Parliament and how would it be paid for If the TPM are an example of what to expect then it would be of little value to the average Maori.

    1. Maybe Ngi Tahu have noticed the difficulty in establishing a supermarket where the 2 major players have established supply chains and the ability to lower prices so that any competition can only sell at a loss? It might surprise you to learn that supermarkets sell more than produce also although it would be better for many people if the range was reduced somewhat. I think that TPM would be a lot better than the current CoC although I have my hopes in a better place.

  6. Horticultural work is labour intensive. No surprises that those in the game have a business model that exploits RSE workers and backpackers, more so than they could locals. I suspect the industry does employ locals, but not as pickers. And if local workers in the shed, not far off the minimum wage but surely they’re covered by domestic labour regulations.

    Some employers may well be fairer than others but as for the RSE workers it certainly looks like exploitation – cheap labour and hard workers who turn up day after day.

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