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  1. TDB has previously identified that it’s the 100 biggest corporation polluters in the world we should be campaigning against. I agree. Let’s start with them. NZ farmers are small fry.

    1. Our farmers aren’t ”small fry” when they fill our water supplies with nitrates and E. coli.

      People have died or suffer life-long health issues from the dairy runoff pollution.

      100% Pure? My arse.

      1. But Ximon, stay on topic, NZ farmers could be completely carbon free and environmentally friendly and it will change nothing. They are very minor players. Oil companies aren’t. See the difference?

    2. Let’s follow the old axiom – Think globally, act locally. The lack of that means just looking away at the problem elsewhere rather than attending to the task of our own difficulties and degradation. You think it is better to have a cargo culture waiting for some big person/corpse to come and fix our own small problems for us do you?

  2. A short history lesson for brainless Bob and the rest who will try and defend National.

    Notice how everyone is complaining about energy prices, the cost of butter and crumbling water infrastructure?

    Well, the Key government sold half of our power generators meaning they pay out dividends instead of increasing capacity and security of supply.

    And $500 million of the money raised by the sale went into providing water to a small number of farmers and thousands of cows. Not better water infrastructure for us.

    And now those same farmers gouge us for dairy products.

    Now New Zealanders are, on the whole, thick as shit but I think even a child could understand the connections between the above historical facts.

    But not Bob and co…

    1. Cinder, the moaners could stop buying butter and live longer. However I agree, a lot of the problem is a direct result of previous governments including Key’s.

  3. We will get those magic RBNZ interest rate cuts and reduce agricultural emissions the minute the foot & mouth virus re-emerges in this 100%BS country.

    It would also temporarily wreck our economy, but sweet Jesus – it’s already getting well wrecked by this current bunch of shortsighted CoCs.

    1. Yes they are very lucky that Jacinda decided to eliminate the mico bovis plasma out break that would have been as bad as foot and mouth had she decided to get stuck in and eliminate it .The ungreatful milk and beef farmers have forgotten already how they were pleading for help and how the taxpayer saved their backsides .All those beef and dairy farms would be abandoned now had she turned her back and walked away .

      1. Mycoplasma Bovis.
        No it wouldn’t have caused abandoned farms, most of the world lives with it.
        It was very traumatic for farmers affected having herds culled.
        Not a vote or friend winner.
        But I’ll meet you half way by acknowledging the shoddy farmer biosecurity under the Nats that let the bug in, and labour had a chance to eradicate that they took.
        It was messy though and pretty sad.

  4. Follow the money is an appropriate description of how this government works. They don’t care about the future and we suffer the consequence.

  5. The history of NZ’s decarbonisation efforts has already proved that Federated Farmers contribution to the debate are not offered in good faith.

      1. Totally true, GW.

        Together with backwards movement out the cows backsides directly into our once-upon-a-time 100% pure waterways.

        The international markets won’t buy our bullshit forever; these polluters need to sort their shit.

  6. The problem with NZ environment laws is that they have been captured by the legal profession.

    It does not benefit the public interest or the environment to blow large amounts of money on courtroom theatrics.

    The solution to agribusiness overreach is mitigation, not litigation. If the net effect of agricultural irrigation takes is the nitrify bore water, the cost of mitigating that naturally falls to the folk responsible – not councils or ratepayers.

    We don’t want to stick it to the cockies – just have them clean up their mess.

  7. How much butter does the average family consume in a week .Even if it was 4 blocks that means your $10 out of pocket compared to a year ago .One less coffee one less beer or use some of the dollars saved on mortgage costs and all good .Fonterra and farmers making heaps of money and paying tax to support the country and loads of buttered toast to enjoy for the people .

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