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  1. It’s not as if this is the first time. Most have forgotten the Doherty case, where they also snitched up the nearest person, even suppressing evidence that would have proven him innocent.

    There is clearly a systemic problem within the force.

    1. I have recently returned to New Zealand after spending several months overseas and I read this.

      Andrew, I respond to you because you are spot on. As I have done in the past I spoke to my father’s friend who is a retired Police Officer. He was in the Police when a lot of these corrupt Police practices occurred. Mr Doherty was arrested and charged because the Police asked the little girl if she knew who assaulted her and she said David, which is Mr Doherty’s Christian name. She said this because the person who did do it told her his name was David. Doherty was a neighbour at the time and apparently had some criminal convictions, so the Police decided it was him. He was found guilty on the evidence the cops put up and sentenced to many years in prison but it turned out the DNA on the little girl was not his. It belonged to the person who did commit the crime on her and who was eventually found guilty for doing it. The scary thing is that one of the corrupt cops involved in the investigation that resulted in the arrest of Mr Doherty said that even though the DNA did not match him, he believed it was still Doherty who committed the crime. And this was after the person who did do it was arrested. That just about says it all.

      With the Alan Hall matter, yes, the Police are now going to investigate the involvement of the Crown lawyers in this case. They should also investigate the corrupt cops who changed the independent witness’s statement to delete the description of the person the witness saw running away from the crime scene – described as a tall solidly built Maori man, which is not the description of Mr Hall. This did not fit with the cops corrupt narrative because they had decided, wrongly again, that it was Mr Hall so they deliberately changed the statement and it was the original statement of the witness that was not passed on to Mr Hall’s lawyers.

      The corrupt cops in the Hall case should also be investigated and charged. I have been told the crime they committed is perverting the course of justice.

      From time to time we read about a cop who is charged with an assault or a theft or whatever but the real corruption goes much deeper and the Allan Hall case illustrates that as does all the other cases MB and Andrew have identified.

      I really feel for Mr Hall. 19 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. No amount of compensation will make it right and to add insult to his deep injury, his mother, who had been fighting for Mr Hall from the very beginning, died before the Supreme Court decision overturning his conviction.

      Do we really expect the cops to properly investigate the Crown lawyers? No. Do we really expect the Police and the IPCA to call to account the corrupt cops who obviously intentionally changed the evidence to get Mr Hall convicted? No.

      The IPCA which is made up of retired senior cops will do every thing it can to protect the corrupt cops in this case and if there is evidence of corruption or changing the evidence, they will say something like, “it does not reach the threshold for a criminal prosecution”.

      The corruption runs deeper than the cops.

  2. It’s a fucking disgrace. There should have been changes to the system after the Arthur Allan Thomas evidence planting to put checks and balances in place.

    (And those cops should still be in prison)

    But what do we get – some words of regret. A half apology. And no changes.

    That’s the definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over and being surprised at getting the same results over and over.

    It means that anyway without a lot of money or connections could end up behind bars for crimes they never committed.

  3. The police seem to think they are infallible & a big proportion of the population believes them. Having a truly independent way to investigate them would be the only way to find out what is really going on.

  4. This is a lot of detail for readers to consider, but do it for your own education and to be prepared for any interaction with cops, NZ Police culture is bent. It is a long inglorious list of stitch ups, particularly given the historic cold cases of usually young women murdered in NZ that remain unsolved.

    1. Police dishonesty is systemic.
      It often starts small, with new recruits being introduced to techniques such as fabricating reasons for traffic stops etc, encouraged to use biased and inflammatory language in reporting and describing interactions with suspects etc.
      Promotions depend on “results”.

    2. When my cousin was busted years ago, he was caught with four pounds of weed, when he got to court he was surprised to find he was being charged for three pounds.

      Frontline police, from my experience, aren’t normally too bad, just guys doing their jobs, with a slight bit of unconscious bias. The Detectives however… They are normally ambitious, ruthless, deceitful, and morally vacant.

    1. Good, he was stitched up too, not helped by his first lawyer either. Some skilled journalists have looked into Scott Watson’s conviction and it is clear there was evidence tampering by the plods.

  5. All we have is learning’s, and it’s now been proven that learning’s are now just a throw away term meaning.

    ” I ‘ant changing, but there is a nice word for ya that means I may change, to full up the news cycle”

  6. Not surprised at all but it is still shocking nonetheless. I think the crud is rising to the surface so it can be cleansed and healed. I expect we’ll see more and more of all sorts of crud rising as people’s secrets and deceit is revealed the world over. Very interesting times!

  7. Fixing the broken prosecution system is yet another item on the long, long list of things that the Labour government has failed to do which would hugely improve the lives of NZers. You don’t expect National to do anything against their mates but I can’t understand why an allegedly progressive party is happy to rail against injustice when in opposition and do sweet f.a. when they actually get a chance. Mr Goff’s failure to pardon Peter Ellis when he was justice minister for example is a huge stain on the guy’s credibility, such as it is.

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