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  1. What I would like to know is:
    How much has the state spent so far in trying to get TPPA signed?
    All the airfares, accommodation, salaries etc, all to no avail.
    No result.

    Another example of nationals great fiscal handling?

    1. Frankly speaking. My opinion on the level of spending on FTAs is not enough because it doesn’t even touch the sides. When we bought down trade tarifs it was advertised as only wonderful things. So lets not be fraudsters

  2. After the events in Ukraine and Crimea and following the bilateral bans on and from Russia I read that Russia said it would ask NZ to supply cheese and other dairy products. No doubt with pressure from Key Fonterra refused to go against the govt and turned down the deal.
    An enormous opportunity went begging in order to back up our US masters and with little regard to the country.
    The following extract is from ‘Farmers Weekly’

    ‘Former Prime Minister John Key recalled then Trade Minister Tim Groser from Moscow on the eve of a free-trade deal with Russia in early 2014 on diplomatic grounds after Kremlin-backed troops invaded Crimea.

    Groser was understood to have further antagonised Moscow by instructing exporters to hold back from filling the gap created by Russia’s ban on food imports from some Western countries ‘

    The crazy thing is that Russia is one of the few countries that ban any products that have GMO’s from being imported which seems a natural fit for our country.
    We don’t seem to have any qualms about dealing with the evil Saudi regime however and in fact turn a blind eye to their human rights abuses in their country and their murder of countless civilians around the world in their endless wars so that we can have a trade agreement with them.

    Opposition parties need to give a clear message to the voters that the Green Party policy mentioned above is supported and promoted in the interests of all NZer’s.

    1. We even set up an Agricultural Hub for the Saudi’s by the way how is it going?

    2. +1 JAX – there seems to be no rhyme or reason to National government thinking. Are they just puppets on a string with zero independent thought and even less self preservation in the long term with these agreements and then turning down legitimate trade?

      Are the insane running the asylum?

  3. “It is clear that this won’t happen until we change the government”….that would have to mean that the ‘new’ government is on board…I don’t particularly see Labour as making any great stand in this regard. This isn’t like Anti Smacking or House Insulation Subsidies for Landlords…this is an issue that is dear to the heart of the neo liberals

  4. Quote: “As with the proposed FTA with the EU, the big countries won’t remove their agricultural subsidies they pay to large agribusiness. These are far more damaging to New Zealand farmers than tariffs.”

    Those EU ‘subsidies’ are in forms now, that do not necessarily give local agricultural producers in the EU all that much advantage these days, they get funding to keep their land in a sustainable way and to do other things there now, rather than simply boost output of milk and so.

    And should NZ not endeavour to diversify more, and do more locally, than ship goods half way around the globe, and import stuff from far away, also half way around the globe? Is it not bizarre to import cheese and butter from the EU, beers from Europe, and then send them our butter, cheese, milk powder and lamb in return?

    We are simply adding to the global climate change and warming, by having ships and airplanes travel to and fro, pumping further gases into the atmosphere.

    So fare bio-fuels for air-travel and transport cannot be produced cheaper than the fossil fuel still used, and if bio-fuel will be used in future, the production of crops for that will likely compete with land use required for growing crops for humans and animals.

    To be honest we are in a huge dilemma with the present global trade and transport scenario, we are continuing to pollute massively, also by letting tourism grow, where most come here by air-planes, again polluting the atmosphere.

    We must move away from this, produce more of what we need here, and grow food and resources for primarily local use and consumption. With that we can also use local resources to produce more high tech stuff, e.g. services in IT or whatsoever, and value added goods for some exporting.

    1. +1 “We must move away from this, produce more of what we need here, and grow food and resources for primarily local use and consumption. With that we can also use local resources to produce more high tech stuff, e.g. services in IT or whatsoever, and value added goods for some exporting.”

  5. I agree with much said here, but with the useless media and lack of proper information and education, a car obsessed population that stubbornly continues to pollute the atmosphere, to buy and turf away, to continue a highly wasteful one way lifestyle, we will hardly get enough people vote for such an alternative.

    It is an up hill battle, as I see the same as usual here in Auckland day in and out, ignorance rules, it seems, that is for the bulk of the population.

  6. ‘Free trade’: corporations and banks are free to exploit people and resources and are free to wreck the planet whilst transferring costs onto taxpayers and the commons.

  7. @savenz – yes, the ‘insane’ are running the asylum.
    Just hopefully not for much longer, as we all may go mad!

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