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  1. Yes, completely ignoring anything that happened earlier in this region’s history. Ignoramus!

  2. Just as Jim Bolger claimed that he was against sporting tours with the South African apartheid regime, after apartheToid ended.

    One day everyone will have always been against this.

    To which I would add; One day the Gaza genocide deniers will be as reviled and dispised as Holdocaust deniers are today.

    We need to out the genocide deniers now.

    The worst are every single one of the government MPs, in National, Act and New Zealand First. Cosely followed by the opposition Labour Party. The officially stated policy of the Labour party according Labour MP Phil Twyford Labour party leader Chris Hipkins is Genocide Denial

    “Labour’s Damien O’Connor goes against party policy in calling Israel’s actions in Gaza ‘genocide’ “.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/504190/labour-s-damien-o-connor-goes-against-party-policy-in-

    …..While the Greens and Te Pāti Māori have been calling it genocide for weeks, O’Connor’s colleague Phil Twyford – whose amendment calling for a two-state solution was adopted – said his comments did not reflect Labour’s position.
    …..In a statement Chris Hipkins said: “Damien O’Connor is incredibly passionate about this issue and that was evident during his contribution today. I respect the emotion and feeling he showed during the debate.
    “However the Labour Party’s position remains that it is for the relevant international bodies to determine whether actions by Israel are within the constraints of international law.”

    One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This
    by Omar El Akkad review – a cathartic savaging of western hypocrisy over Gaza

    The novelist and reporter delivers a passionate indictment of complacent liberal responses to Israel’s brutal campaign

    …..“This is an account of a fracture,” he writes, “a breaking away from the notion that the polite, western liberal ever stood for anything at all.” It is a deft, broken-hearted, rhetorical savaging of comfortable people who say nothing (or pay lip service) but care only about preserving normality, convincing themselves that these things only happen “to certain places, to certain people”.

    …..The ugliness El Akkad describes is real and seems inescapable, too. Much of it is the unspeakable stuff nobody admits to but is clear to anyone who reads or observes: that once we’re safe, our empathy is often performative; that it’s more expedient to be against evil after it’s over….

    For today’s genocide deniers we need to make certain that there is no coming back from this. They need to be publicly outed, and called out now.

  3. Now the fuckers are starting on the west bank as Israel has bulldozers and diggers in there destroying Palastinian homes yesterday .What the fuck ? the world is sitting back watching .At the least there should be a raft of sanctions on Israel and the local embassy in Wellington should be closed and staff arrested and sent to the war crimes court .

    1. Pragamatism vs. decency

      Liberal politics vs, principled politics.

      In 1978 by an act of parliament New Zealand ratified and solemnly agreed to uphold and be legally bound to act to prevent and punish the crime of genocide.

      So why don’t we?

      The very least the oppostion parties could do, is put a bill in the ballot to get the government to debate the issue.

      Proposed bill

      That the parliament of New Zealand officially recognise that a genocide is being committed in Gaza against the indigenous Palestinian population.

      The significance of such a bill, if it was passed, is that New Zealand would be bound to take action by international treaty and New Zealand law.

      Article 1 of the Genocide Convention
      https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide%20Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf
      “….. the obligation to prevent genocide contained in Article I of
      the Genocide Convention has an extraterritorial scope. As such, States that have the capacity to influence others have a duty to employ all means reasonably available to them to prevent genocide, including in relation to acts committed outside their own borders.”

      Our Obligations under the genocide convention to employ all reasonable means avaiable to usl to prevent the crime genocide are clear.

      On December 28, 1978. New Zealand officially agreed to be legally and contractually bound to act to prevent the crime of genocide, as defined by the International Convention on the prevention and punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

      No doubt an opposition members bill calling on the government to recognise that genocide is being committed in Gaza will be voted down by the government parties. But at the very least we will have identified and outed the genocide deniers and this will be an albatross around their dirty necks for the rest of their miserable political careers.

      Will the opposition parties take this simple proposed measuire?

      Will any single MP dare to put a bill in the ballot calling on parliament to officially recognise genocide is being committed in Gaza?

      If not, their lack of acton would mark the final victory of liberalism over principle in this country.

      And shame us all.

      Appendix:

      Q: What is the definition of genocide? google search

      A: [the] “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such”;
      “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”

      Q: When did New Zealand ratify the genocide convention? google search

      A: New Zealand ratified the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide on December 28, 1978. This is also confirmed by the UN Treaty Collection.

      Q: What does contractually bound mean? google search

      A: “Contractually bound” means obligated or restricted by the terms of a legally binding contract. It signifies that someone has agreed to a specific set of conditions and is legally required to fulfill those conditions.

      Q: Does New Zealand support the international rules based order? google search

      A: New Zealand prime minister says to stand up for international rules-based order
      By Lucy Craymer
      Reuters, July 12, 2024

      Q: Are the New Zealand opposition Labour Party officially genocide deniers? Google search

      A: [Yes] “Labour’s Damien O’Connor goes against party policy in calling Israel’s actions in Gaza ‘genocide’ “.

      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/504190/labour-s-damien-o-connor-goes-against-party-policy-in-.

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