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  1. Agree with you Frank not only did they raise ACC levies they denied many NZers their ACC entitlements using the word degenerative in their reports

  2. Never smile at a crocodile Frank. They have but one thing on their minds…

    Re-election no matter what!

  3. Don’t you leftists get tired of trotting out the same old tropes about National hates the poor? What nonsense. Labour thinks they can help the poor by throwing money down a welfare rathole – that does not work, it just entrenches poverty. To get out of poverty people need jobs and opportunity, and you won’t get that from socialism – which by the way has failed everywhere and always, and also created the most tyrannical and murderous regimes in history. Capitalism and free trade have lifted more people out of poverty than socialism, this is just a fact and if you don’t agree then something other than the facts is influencing your thinking. The left is just filled with hate and envy and y’all know it too.

      1. Well i am pleased to see my comment was allowed through, most lefty sites I go to don’t allow a contrary comment to penetrate their echo chamber, so kudos to the daily blog for that. But anyway, you comment that only the 1% are out of poverty because of capitalism – come on you don’t really believe that do you? I will assume that you are having a laugh because if not you are being silly. Capitalism may have its faults, but it is way, way better than any alternative, especially the completely discredited ideas of socialism. Anyway, good luck to you

    1. clenchfist for truth who is displaying hate and spitefulness at the moment and who is throwing their toys out of the cot because they lost the last MMP election. You need to ask why they lost, what did they do and what have they been doing (privacy) And who has been using dirty downright personal nasty tactics. Capitalism has many faults and it doesn’t and hasn’t worked either just look at the mess America is in. It was capitalism that caused the GFC too much greed and it hurt the very people you claim it is suppose to help. You talk about jobs which ones? the part time ones, the casual ones the low paid and insecure ones that cant even put a roof over peoples heads, . And what about the interference with the markets so much for the market providing through competitiveness. We are still waiting for our lower power prices the ones Bradford promised when they sold of our power companies. And who brought in thousand of cheap labour immigrants and what has this done apart from make those already rich richer. When all many kiwis want is a decent wage for a decent days work and a reasonable standard of living. Little wonder so many kiwis scampered over to Aussie. Welfare has it faults but I see some of the last government and their families got a leg up from socialism yet they don’t want others to get the same help they did. Yes welfare has it faults especially if it isn’t reviewed and monitored. Our last PM and his family got a state house his deputy got the TIA we need this safety net more so now than ever especially when you have a government that has sold many assets, cuts social services and privatises everything possible all so they don’t have to be responsible for the citizens they are suppose to govern for all not the few that is why they are gone and in my view they should never ever get back in. They have destroyed the social fabric of our country and whether you like it or not our country was founded on socialism. Not everyman for himself.

    2. LOL – another 20 words and “stenched fistula” above would surely have mentioned Venezuela.
      i.e. we can’t do anything about ending poverty “because Venezuela”

    3. Why oh why do so many Righties use “truth” somewhere in their pseudonum? Ah well…

      Well reasoned, Frank. I notice Clenched doesn’t address a single point you raised. But he certainly felt the need to vent a tirade at you. I think you’ve hit a nerve, me ole mate.

    4. you contradict yourself, to entrench poverty it has to exist first. by the way jonkeys a big ahole go fist him.

    5. Labour thinks they can help the poor by throwing money down a welfare rathole – that does not work, it just entrenches poverty

      So… “throwing money down a welfare rathole” doesn’t work?

      But… “throwing money down a tax-cut rathole” does?

      Funny how “throwing money” at the poor doesn’t work – but “throwing money” at the rich (via tax cuts) helps stimulate the economy?

      If you think money entrenches poverty, Clenchedfist, can I supply you with my bank account number so you can “throw your money” to me?

      That should make you the most well off person in the country!!

  4. National govts are really good at rolling out corporate welfare under the guise of free market enterprise. What is going to get interesting is how National challenges a growing perception that they are not masters of economic management. The smoke and mirror charade act that perpetuates the myth of National govt fiscal propriety for the betterment of all is slowly fading from center stage.

  5. I hate hypocrisy but it is amazing how effective it can be as has been shown in the United States.

  6. It’s interesting Frank, because it is not so long ago that these same National puppeteers in Parliament were proclaiming (a) that poverty was a lifestyle choice, and (b) that it doesn’t exist in NZ anyway. Could quote Key at a Peat Warwick Christmas luncheon, but I don’t want to get sued.

    Ross isn’t the brightest and was likely just scoring cheap points – he tends to be a bit of a tiresome twit – but genuine concern for the poor would alienate National from its traditional support base.

    If, however, they’ve suddenly realised that government represents all of the people, and that tax cuts for the rich can be counterproductive for the country, and that selling income-earning assets to their off-shore cronies deprived us of the revenue streams our crumbling infrastructure very much needs, then it would be an apocalypse rivaling St Paul’s on the road to Damascus and welcomed by all.

    They never ever had any vision for the future, at any level.

  7. This site should have a logo for those of us who read the comments, so we could agree or disagree with the comments.

  8. While I wholeheartedly agree with you that National are disingenuous hypocrites in this regard, the fact we on the left mustn’t shy away from is placing a levy on all fossil fuel vehicles to subsidise the purchase of new electric vehicles will benefit the well to do at the expense of the less well off. Which, of course, is not something we on the left should be accepting of.

    So good on you for pointing out the Nats hypocrisy, but I sincerely hope you are not going to be silent and accepting of this policy proposal.

    Something to ponder
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@politics/2018/04/30/106833/help-the-old-bomb-owners-this-time

  9. Haven’t seen this letter published in the Herald. No surprises there I guess.

    1. I haven’t see it either, Macninz. I’m not surprised either. I guess “freedom of speech” applies only to so-called “columnists” who decide to slag of the spouses of our elected representatives because, um, well, they can.

  10. Don’t forget they seriously undermined working for families and now say Labour is not ambitious enough in its child poverty targets. I don’t get it

  11. They used to say that Victorian middle class liberals would do anything for workers except get off their backs.

  12. National are responsible for an unprecedented attack on disabled via deliberate restrictions in both heal and welfare sectors.

    Never has the image of a crying croc been so apt.

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