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  1. One of the saddest aspects of all this is that NZ right now has what is probably the best National govt that traditional National voters have ever had. Why would those National voters look anywhere else.

    What we tragically do not have is a true left-wing govt, meaning, a govt who cares about people and the environment with such passion that they take action on this, a govt who would NEVER turn away the reps of more than 50 groups representing those impacted by poverty, – but who would meet with them, hear them, talk with them, take action as needed. – One such action being, to raise benefits to survivable basic income level, as was asked by those 50+ groups and organisations.

    And a govt who would not continually delay and defer taking action on the hundreds of thousands of tons of toxic waste stored close to the beach (from Tiwai Pt), even if we had not been under tsunami alert less than a week ago.

    …A govt who would help people before corporations. Things have to be bad when it takes Judith bloody Collins (apologies) to say that payments should have been made to individuals rather than to companies and corporations.

      1. If that’s what you’re offering, no, thanks.
        Maybe someone else wants some?

        Got anything better?

  2. An amusing saga of greed and incompetence that goes back an awful long way -to Bolger, and even Muldoon.

    Fortunately for the sociopaths of the looters-and-polluters club, National Party policies live on via fake Labour; money-printing and handouts of government money to failing businesses and speculators.

    Never mind, we are going to becoming Carbon Neutral by 2050. Yes, really. We are. The whole caboodle of corruption and lies is on its way down the gurgler. And with no access to fossil fuels we will be Carbon Neutral before 2050.

    There will undoubtedly be an awful lot of suffering on the way.

    But, hey, that’s what government are for isn’t it? To make the people suffer.

  3. At this point National are turning themselves into a meme. If it wasn’t for them, id be severely depressed about the political situation in NZ right now, but they just keep giving me laughs.

  4. Dirty Politics is internal with the National party. Ftankie, you obfuscate, divert, so back to the subject matter, Nationals review. They only have to remain the same to lose the next election Frankie. Corivida Collins, Two Indians and one Chinese Simon, Bovine Brownlee, Smithers and Homeless Woodhouse remain, so things remain the same. Judging by the non report National are shit and the ballerina leader of the ACT party will continue to be the major opposition in years to come.

    1. I am happy to say there was plenty wrong with National at the time of the election and they did not deserve the government benches but surely you cannot be happy with the curent do nothing Labour government. Kheala sumed it up well with saying many of the current policies would not look out of place if an old style National were in power with no help for benefituries and others at the bottom of the heap . They do not seem to have the ability to read the room and see people are getting angry at the way fruit growers are denied workers boat builders are denied work on yachts poor wages for MIQ workers very day anyother sign of being out of touch. Those that are suportures of this government need to be honest and critical .

      1. Any Government will do things wrong but you both miss the point by a long way. This is NOT about Labour. There are plenty of stories written attacking Labours flaws Trevor. Read the headline and do not try and twist this to make it about Labour. That is why I have responded the way I have. It appears both you and Frankie need to get with the story. You at least attempted to with…

        “there was plenty wrong with National at the time of the election and they did not deserve the government benches”

        There was more than plenty wrong. There were many morally bankrupt and the review no doubt found this, however many people whom can read the room and the person have known for many years that when you have the likes of Boag, Slater connected with the party, then you have serious issues. Bridges is tarnished as is Collins. Throw in Nick Smith with the Pullar affair, Chris Bishop, Gerry Brownlee with his airport arrogance, Jamie Lee Ross and Woodhouse’ made up bullshit, is it really hardly surprising National needed a review at all? Sadly Collins, Smith, Brownlee,Bridges, Woodhouse and Bishop are all entrenched within the party still so a review is worthless.

        1. Yes, Frank sounds as if he is doing a “Look over there!” distraction, which doesn’t work when the stench of that lot’s decay makes us nauseous.

          However he is right about one thing. He wrote, “THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING”, and he is right, and he has given some examples, eg, “seriously tackle inequality”. I unreservedly agree.

          But it is not ‘so that they can get re-elected’, it is because they are entrusted with the care and governance of this country and the people, and such action is desperately needed and long overdue.

        2. How is any of that relevant to Nationals review. Fuck Frankie, even after I put it in black and white. The story is on Nationals review. Now you either have difficulty reading or the lift doesn’t go to the top floor Frankie. You some up why everything is wrong with National. They are arrogantly dismissive.

  5. Oh yes Frank the employment contracts bill was all about better paying jobs.Yeah,nah.Gut the unions and have pipsqueak individuals haggling with corporations for better pay
    SHEESH

  6. You are delusional if you believe National wont be in power again. Yes we overwhelmingly re-elected a left sing government, but when that government acts like a right wing government, what’s the bloody point! Ardern is not a PM of change, she’s John Key with long hair.

  7. ‘One of the saddest aspects of all this is that NZ right now has what is probably the best National govt that traditional National voters have ever had. Why would those National voters look anywhere else.’
    So sad to have to completely agree with you Kheala.
    You must be careful what you wish for.
    Years ago I wished for the end of Rob Muldoon’s National Government and my father( old and near death) said ‘there are worse things than Rob’s Mob. I am old enough to have seen them before.”
    Rob went, Labour won and those of us who voted Labour saw our dreams become nightmares that refuse to stop.
    Maybe one day the reverse will happen. Disillusioned voters will return a new National Party that suddenly embraces socialist ideology.
    No chance of it happening soon.

    1. The present govt can still turn this around. But they have to start taking strong, decisive action now. If they procrastinate, if they put it off for another year then it will become much more of an uphill climb.

      1. All I have is my opinion, and I’m still trying to get clear on what’s going on. My op. is that it is not a question of talent/ ability, nor of a generalised desire to “make things better”, but they seem to lack a sense of urgency. They act as if they have an infinite amount of time, and they don’t.

  8. No Kheala I have to diagree with you ,we will have 2 more election wins under Jacinda and Robbo.300 ,000 imigrants let in by Key,buggerred the housing market,they built a piddling amount of houses.Unlike Labour now they let those immigrants in willfully,Saint Jacinda has has 93000 foisted on her thru Covid.See the difference .

    1. Strongly agree with you Mark – My point is that Key was NOT “traditional” Nat – He went way, way, way to the “right” of that, and the consequences are with us now in the extremes of inequality and insufficient housing for Kiwis (plenty for “investors”). And many long time trad. Nats were aware of this and were unhappy about it. The present “Labour” govt is more the way they would like things to be.

      But we still do not have a true LEFT-wing govt – One that does NOT freeze out beneficiaries and ignore the plight of the poorest, and one that would take strong action immediately on the environment.

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