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  1. Yet we have two main parties who are essentially alike. Both of whom prop up the global neo liberalism of the last 30 years. Labour started us down that road in the mid 80’s, brought in regressive unfair taxes like GST and passed the CP-TPP into law. Now I see we have the RCEP coming up, also under Labour.

  2. Why don’t we live separately then. Socially and financially. The cities could demonstrate their superior innovation and skill by providing their own economic and physical sustenance .
    D J S

    1. Rural people will have to develop our own clique of humanities, law and politics graduates who have never had an actual job, to tell us what to do.
      However would we survive otherwise.

  3. A potent mix of arrogance and myopic ignorance, this effort Mr Trotter. Unless it’s satire?
    God I hope so.
    It is not the cities shriveling, infrastructure neglected, having their way of life misunderstood and attacked, being preached to on how to farm, hunting bad, conservatism bad.
    No, the cities swell, hotbeds of the (as per your myopia)oh so virtuous left? Where does Hosking live?
    How about some historical virtuous lefties who made a name for themselves after moving to the city to become bettet people Pol Pot anyone? Paris really opened his eyes. Chairman Mao? Shining examples.
    Cities give us bureaucrats, middle men and paper shufflers. And woke idiots. All far more important than food producers obviously, since it’s clearly a childish competition for you.
    Please tell me you are joking and the obvious hypocrisy is on purpose,

    1. Pol Pot emptied out Phnom Penh into the Killing Fields as the first thing he did. Seen the picture of the guy waving the pistol? Get it right.

      1. Spent some time there chap.
        He’s a fine example of Trotters rural peasant who bettered himself by going urban.
        Trotters image (rural people are just uneducated peasants, only the best of whom make it to the cities) is both insultingly patronizing, but also clearly in the case of some of the worlds most horrendous mass murdering lefties, patently stupid.

      2. My take on it is yeah, we do have a dichotomy but (I don’t want to say only but I’m feeling lazy) but only for a select group of ultra orthodox lefties or alt-rights.

        I do think Chris Trotters blog wins the psychology and social terms, rather than a political one. If we accept what ever labels as meaning that we are motivated by deeply held anger and hatred towards other groups, resentment or betrayal by the elites, and a sense of powerlessness and failure in the face of overwhelming corrupting of ones national identity, in both left and right, city of rural town. Then it probably is rightwing.

        But I don’t see right wing people or the values they hold dear as something that would want to destroy themselves. That’s not politics at all.

        I think Pol Pot, Pinochet or even a Brenton Tarrant or even a Tame Iti are deeply deluded in THE how to achieve victory. The principe being to ameliorate the conditions in which conflict can erupt.

  4. Kia ora Chris
    Rural New Zealand is no more homogeneous that its cities. There are large and small holders, corporate farmers, hippy environmentalists and kainga Maori, Filipino contract milkers and German orchardists, the idle poor and the leisured rich, hardworking labourers and industrious landowners, along with the full gamut of vice and virtue.
    A fair few of your readers do hail from rural New Zealand. Often they are the ones who put their names to their comments, and thus they can be judged truly free in a way which the mass of anonymous or pseudonymous commenters are not.
    They may also be erudite, informed, moderate and constructive. The rural connection is important. Cities cannot survive without a rural base, and the rural hinterland is profoundly affected by what happens in the cities. “The land”, whether in its natural or modified state, is also central to our sense of national identity.
    Social change is best brought about by a constructive interaction between city and countryside, involving the exchange of ideas, values and resources. Where city and countryside are at odds with one another (for example the Soviet Union’s campaign against the kulak peasant farmers, or the Khmer Rouge attempt to depopulate Cambodia cities) the outcome is more likely to be malign. If we are to take sides we should take the side of those who combine good sense with good will, those who are fair, open minded, generous and compassionate. Never mind whether they dwell in the city or country.
    City folk, most particularly the “urban poor”, should not lose sight of the truth that the countryside is also their own birthright, and that rural folk are of their own whanau. They should remain open to the strength, virtues and wisdom of those who work most closely with the whenua. None of that can be “damaging to the interests of the urban poor”. Rather it will be an essential to their liberation from the forces of domestic and global capital.

  5. Yep, farming is just big business these days. Dairy is bad for the environment and yet as you say these folk won’t have a bar of any criticism of our primary industry. Well bollocks. The writings on the wall and not before time either. Sorry Dairy farmers but you gotta change and stop fucking the environment. Don’t need all your milk anyway, 90% exported. Us townies want our clean rivers and lakes, not open drains polluted by farming.

    1. Hope “us townies” are going to do their bit too… like reduce to one car per household.

      1. Yes, that’s a promise. Next car will be hybrid hopefully hydrogen fuel cell to go with my motorcycle and not a gas guzzling Harley either. My last Ducati was very light 2 cylinder superbly economical.

  6. Another Leftard who doesnt know where his food comes from and has no idea at all about climate science, quoting zee germans now are we as a defense of massive fraud and social experimentation on us.
    hers one for ya “Arbeit Macht Frei” thats exactly where you would have us all isnt it?
    There is no global warming thats man made,in fact theres no global warming at all.
    The Leftards know this and are trying to shift their narrative to ‘Climate Change’, here is a quote from Valintina, every human could leave the planet tomorrow except for one scientist, then he wouldnt even be able to measure the difference in Co2, we are talking about 0.3(man made) of 3 percent of the atmosphere after all.
    Co2 is only plant food, the sun is going though its natural cycle and you are screaming that the sky is falling, attempting to blame farmers and country folks for your own ignorance, in an attempt to further your own agenda, it just goes to show what an education gained in New Zealand is actually worth, not the toilet paper its printed on.

    1. I have to agree that this anti rural narrative and chicken licken fear of the sky falling is often labelled as “leftist”, but is in fact a green world view, not “leftist”.. Considering the green vote successfully splits the left vote all over the world, enabling “rightists” to retain power, is it possible that blaming the rural producers for the weather is a way of driving a wedge between progressive thinkers in town and country? Why should the country folk be painted as “right wing” when we live and work under the sky and still believe in freedom and equality,the two great Kiwi dreams? and plant more trees than townies can even count? And why paint green beliefs as “leftist”, when they clearly split the left? Bomber, why keep alienating those of us who are radical thinking country based workers, rightly skeptical of climate change, yet who vote labour with hope, love the land, and mistrust the greens with their poison helicopters..

    2. YOUR ignorance is offensive. We don’t need all this dairy farming, but we do need beefies and sheep units for food. Those who are still in denial about climate change just need to get real, try and put your self centred life in perspective and try and understand what IS going to happen, and that us oldies have caused it. Get off your high horse and don’t be such an arsehole.

    3. “Arbeit macht frei” (Work Makes Free) was a Nazi distortion of the older saying quoted by Chris T. The Nazis often tried to fit their poisonous doctrine into older German traditions in a wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing sense (no insult to wolves intended).

  7. Excellent article Cris the rural right is kept alive in most jurisdictions solely to maintain the political divide.Especially NZ where it has enabled total idiots to remain in power for decades.

  8. I’m sure as you flew by jet to Europe and cruised the rivers on your fossil fueled boat recently, sipping cocktails waited on by the poor from other countries, supping with fellow non productive boomers from around the world , that you had ample opportunity to research the transgressions of those stupid few who still cling to life in New Zealand’s “regions”. How dare they!
    How foolish they are to defy the weight of scientific evidence that they are warming our climate!!
    And they vote Right!
    They should listen to the cities I tell you. The cities.

  9. I can tell you that its the poor who are suffering from your pompous ideas and taxation stratagems, extra taxes on the fuel we all use have already resulted in rising food prices and a general cost of living increase across the board, everything travels and uses fuel to get to the inner countryside, pressure on housing from increased immigration has resulted in housing shortages and rent increases in all rural centers.
    And now to be told you will be penalized for driving an old car so city knobs can get cheaper battery cars is the last straw, no battery car in the market today is any use to someone in a country environment, the lack of range and carrying power, not to mention their susceptibility to cold weather makes them next to useless, a bit like a Labor government.
    Heres a better idea, move out of the concrete jungle and lose the urban heat island effect, grow yourself a garden, quite wining and bitching about what everyone else has and get yourself a real fukin job.

    1. Taranaki is hardly a concrete jungle, in fact it’s really just one big farm. Which is where I live. I have been to many of these farms as a truck driver and it’s not my cup of tea, farming I mean. But that’s irrelevant. Some look down their nose at townies, are ignorant as fuck and know sweet FA about the real world outside of farming, just like you. The worlds changing, get used to it. The old days are gone and they won’t be back.

  10. Great Stuff Chris.

    The whole point, missed by many of your critics who think you are dissing the farmers and rural life in general, is that urbanisation is unstoppable thanks to the automation of farming and various other forces.

    And that the main significance of the rural myth is to distract our attention from urban issues affecting most of the modern population such as the cost of housing and lack of good jobs.

    And to discredit urban social movements that complain about these issues as not somehow representing the ‘real’ nation or not being tough and stoical enough to suffer in silence, unlike all those farmers’ sons at Gallipoli.

    Of course we need the farmers to grow our food.

    But that’s not the point.

  11. I see Trotter produces zero evidence to support his vapid and divisive generalisations.
    How does France where a much higher % of rural inhabitants are participants in the gilets jaunes revolt fit into this moronic assertion?

    It seems Trotter hasn’t shaken off his neoliberal sympathies. After all isn’t rule number one of the neolibs: First of all categorise, sectionalise and through that divide the opposition to corporatist global hegemony?

    1. In my experience, those who complain the most tend to have the thinnest skin. They don’t want people to be able to speak their minds, they want to be able to attack others without having to worry about consequences.

      For example, look at how past and present authors of the standard are so utterly shocked and horrified that Clinton lost. They can’t bring themselves to acknowledge she’s a terrible candidate so attack Trump the person, not the President.

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