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  1. I’m really glad you wrote this Chris because I too was astounded at what she was trying to argue.

    TDBs own Dave Macpherson, who suffered the tragedy of his son dying in state ‘care’ incompetence ran on the DHB board to hold the pricks to account. Suggesting he doesn’t know what he’s talking about seems grotesque.

    It’s not the first time Lizzie’s authoritarian nature has shone through, she once wanted to punish those who didn’t vote…

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/10/08/why-lizzie-marvellys-compulsory-voting-idea-isnt-a-solution/

    …bless the Woke, but sweet Jesus if they ever won power, it would make the Cultural Revolution look mild.

  2. This strain of Chris writing goes back at least to his infamous “Waitakere Man” of the BBQ pit–similar but different to Tony Blair’s “Ford Sierra Man”. Such composite creatures are generally “hard working”, “aspirational” and most importantly “ignored and misunderstood”.

    Do you pander to the reactionaries, or the 50% of New Zealanders, according to a recent survey, that do not know the names of the world’s seven Continents, or that the Earth travels around the Sun and takes 365 days to do so?

    This current Govt. has done its fair share and more of pandering to the dark New Zealanders, and the one’s who saw a Capital Gains Tax as a major affront to their individualist dreams, stoked by 30 years of neo liberal hegemony.

    As for DHBs, they are usually loaded to the gunwales with tin pot tory time servers out to top up their super. Yes there are exceptions to that, but rarely in the provinces. I would like to see the Public Sector full of ordinary people–Robert Reid in charge of WINZ/MSD (or overseeing its retirement on route to UBIs etc more like), Mike Treen at Treasury, Bomber Bradbury at RNZ…

  3. The last election was an accident. Labour did better than expected because they changed leaders and the National Party had no time to retool its campaign to counter. They won’t make that mistake again: the campaign to remove NZ First has already started in the media, with a constant drip feed of microscandals. The government is also useless. The fact that National is also equally useless doesn’t seem to have registered.

    All democracy means to me, and all it has ever meant to me, is vast numbers of old people making me pay for their tax cuts and benefits. It’s not that people like me love authoritarianism, but that we have always been at the mercy of the tyranny of the majority (in this case old people at the trough). It’s rational to want non-democratic appointees, because they have at least some chance of doing a decent job.

    1. A – “The fact that National is also equally useless doesn’t seem to have registered.” I think it might have registered, but Labour pussyfooting around, abandoning CGT, the Greens’ patronising offensiveness, and now child poverty known to be just as bad as it ever was, has had me thinking that we may as well have the Nats – as a punishment to the Coalition. I’ve not thought that way before.

      I have never voted National. I once voted Values, quit Labour for the Greens, and quit the Greens for nobody. Marvelly just sounds like another idiotic mosquito – assume she’s green.

      1. Applewood: “…the Greens’ patronising offensiveness…”

        And amen to that! God, they’re irritating. Unelectable, in my view.

        “….has had me thinking that we may as well have the Nats – as a punishment to the Coalition.”

        I’m inching towards this way of thinking myself. The poor likely won’t be any worse off under the Natz. But they’re certainly no better off under the Coalition.

        The only thing over which I’d cut Labour some slack is the CGT. Some time after the decision, I read this:
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/114628351/an-inconvenient-truth-about-tax-in-new-zealand
        And I realised that they were right not to implement it.

        “Marvelly just sounds like another idiotic mosquito – assume she’s green.”

        Haha, very good! A green mosquito: sounds awful…..not sure the Greens would want one of those in their membership list.

        1. I think we may be being duped here d’estette. It’s all very well to give percentages of what proportion the rich pay of the total tax take (which is quite debatable), but without giving us what percentage that is of their total income makes it quite misleading. The article itself makes it clear it reflects income disparities. Even Obama pointed out the immorality of the cleaner paying proportionally more tax than the CEO. Trump bragged he hasn’t tax in 18 years. Transnational corporations pay as little as 4% here and Google and Microsoft just about nothing. Sorry I smell a rat.

  4. Some of those public sector people started out as ordinary people (and ended up as c…ts) who did best from the creation of the welfare state mostly pakeha (middle class capture) as they did the hiring and firing and they employed people just like themselves keeping the brown people down the bottom. And the latter is still happening. If we go through the welfare state and look the facts and figures are all there to see.

  5. The smell of such right wing thinking has been around before. When I was growing up (not in NZ) both my parents told me how it came about in the 30s and what had to be done to counter it and survive. It’s a world wide zeitgeist. Only this time around there are no island nations ready to call the authoritarians’ bluff.

    Goodbye cruel world, I’m off to join the circus…

    Oh wait. This IS the circus…

  6. “The thousands of West Coasters who gathered in Greymouth last weekend to demonstrate their opposition to the Coalition Government’s policies will no doubt be dismissed as feral rednecks.”

    I don’t think most progressives think like this. Beyond that fact, what is this column arguing? That Labour and the Greens should do what National Party voters want because otherwise they will lose the election?

    While National can say and do anything it wants, Labour and the Greens have to walk around on tippy toes in order not to upset people who are not going to vote for them anyway?

    It’s about time responsibility for voting choices be laid at the feet of those who make the choice.

  7. Lizzie clearly doesn’t understand the difference between Governance and Management. The Board’s job is to govern by setting policy, priorities and general direction. They employ the CEO and hold that person to account. The CEO and their management team do the actual running of the organisation which includes most of the stuff that Lizzie thinks the governance board do.

    Truly a useless piece of journalism when it comes to the factual information and every bit as worrying as Chris suggests when it comes to attitude.

    Incidentally the excuse that is being used on the left for the lack of action is that NZ First is holding them back. This is nonsense because in the neo-liberal era NZ First’s economic policies are more radical than Labour’s

  8. I am somewhat right wing but absolutely agree with Chris on this matter. These people are dangerous because they are:-
    1. Arrogant
    2. Incorrect and misguided
    To quote the great Winston Churchill
    Democracy is the worst form of Government, except for all the rest.

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