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  1. “Māori who refuse to be second class citizens in their own country.” Maori share this country and are as able to a first class citizen as any other race. It is the blind abidance to this an outdated treaty that is the problem for Maori by stopping involvement in a modern, one person one vote,, democratic country.

    But if you want a civil war so be it, lets have it out so that future New Zealanders can prosper as one people.

    Strategically if civil war broke out and the state lost control, the UN could bring in peacekeepers to maintain law and order.

    Australians? Fijians? Americans? Chinese? Wagner troops ex Russia? Indian? French? (pity the French Foreign Legion is tied up in the Ukraine).

    When I attended urban warfare training camps it was not your typical Pakeha “red neck” taking part but many “normal” Pakeha, Asian, SE Asians and Indians learning skills they identified as needing in the future. They also had many training camps in rural warfare as well.

    A civil war would be on two fronts, Land occupation based restricted to Northland and the East Coast from Whakatane to Hastings. Guerilla based elsewhere. Cant see the South Island being involved in physical confrontation nor the West Coast of the North Island.

    See you across the barricades.

    1. “But if you want a civil war so be it, lets have it out so that future New Zealanders can prosper as one people.”

      ‘Civil war’ and ‘prosper as a people’ in the same sentence. FFS.

      The Waitangi Tribunal, Treaty Principals, Right The Wrongs Of The Past, Maori Seats are the reasons why NZ hasn’t had a civil war or indigenous terrorism.

  2. I think it was Labour who experienced backlash as they tried to give more power to Maori through devious methods. Ironically the Maori advanced more under Key as he saw it as important to the country .
    Most of the divide comes from the need by National to accommodate 2 other parties to be ablecto rule .MMP was chosen by the voters so that is how we have to operate .Labour were given an unprecedented majority which they squandered and achieved littlevof note

    1. You may be right Trevor.
      But why do the Nats not have the nous to say to Seymour and Peters enough is enough, we do not want to go backwards.
      The view held by many non Maori is that somehow they are advantaged. This is patently not true in many cases such as health and education or employment.
      As a part Maori but white looking I have been fortunate to have not have suffered outright racism. I have however embarrassed a few people by identifying as Maori after they have had a rant.
      The most satisfying was on one occasion one of my staff said he would not employ that black bitch even though she was well qualified. His face was a picture to behold.
      For some reason he resigned a few weeks later. The black bitch took his job.

    2. Trevor Indeed Labour was devious with its secret te Puapua agenda, but it was John Key who snuck Sharples off to secretly sign up to the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People ( UNDRIP) which Clark refused to sign because it poses a direct threat to NZ Sovereignty. Since then I think Labour has ceded this to the unelected cabal of the WHO. They are all as bad as each other, but that
      UNDRIP commitment unleashed discontent and division not necessarily pertinent to New Zealand.

    3. Trevor are you still playing contact sport or did you take a frying pan to the head in that kitchen you work in? What was devious about Labours approach? Did Key have a referendum on his co governance models? No, I think it’s more ZB listeners that made a nonexistent distinction

  3. Old saying I throw in for some reason –
    ‘It’s not the cough that carries you off, it’s the coffin they carry you off in!’.

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