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  1. Agree but don’t think the middle class (which quite frankly is most of NZ) are all for opening up the borders. Most are against.

    The cry for opening up the borders is a certain type of woke or right wing individualist who have copious amounts of time on their hands and work for media, because in their view it is worth the death of others so they can have the luxury of a holiday skiing and not have their rights infringed! Most of these people seem to be given opportunities on a plate, ($1 to buy Stuff).

    The other big brayers for open borders are of course, exploitative employers of mostly low wage industries, Meth and criminals desperate to continue their profitable trade in NZ and migrants trying to get their elderly parents, love interests and dependants into NZ as quickly as possible.

    If we remember Jacinda was way ahead in polls after the last lockdown, Labeen eroded that by again listening to the whining individualist woke, woke media that is so unpopular is sold for $1, and going with the insane micro aggressive thought police legislation on hate speech where the wheels came off on her popularity (and the 2.75 million to mobsters).

    To the woke mentality, putting a billboard with the dictionary definition of a woman is a crime, preaching about God is a criminal act, everyone should be financially supporting their love interests and free care for their parents who are not NZ citizens, and who cares about the 130,000 deaths of Covid in the UK and tens of thousands of new cases each week, where like NZ, the UK have a free public health system. Who cares about doctors and heath professionals, community leaders in NZ dying of Covid….. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/09/coronavirus-dr-joe-williams-death-stark-reminder-to-vulnerable-communities-gp.html Who cares about less than 1 million Maori who might be big casualties of open borders….

  2. Yep. These guys seem to be in complete denial about climate change – or they think themselves buffered, but not so. The uber rich with bunkers may buy themselves a little time, but that’s all. The others will whimper. The lifestyle of the Wellington litigation lawyer with a holiday house down in Wanaka is over – kaput.

  3. And for those braying about economic destruction, the opposite is happening in many cases. NZ always does well in wars and disasters as the world needs our primary products so exports have been up in NZ over Covid as has spending.

    In addition the amount of company profits seems independent of Covid in many industries aka many industries asked for the wage subsidies, and then had to pay them back, as they had a highly profitable year, aka The warehouse, https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/433335/the-warehouse-group-to-repay-68m-wage-subsidy, Silver Fern Farms https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rural/2020/07/silver-fern-farms-declares-12-4-million-dividend-after-paying-back-wage-subsidy.html Convita https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/comvita-off-to-strong-start-plans-to-pay-back-wage-subsidy/7ABJZOTMQNHU353QHP7Z3XIG6A/

    Note many of the companies who made record profits also laid off a lot of staff, and then demanded from government more open borders to replace them. So it seems to be more an exploiter mentality than an actual worker shortage because their profits seem un-coupled from worker shortages (apart from of their own making).

  4. I LOVE the illogic of their arguments that SADSLY others fall for.
    We can’t stay isolated forever, thus open the borders….D’Oh……..why not wait until it makes MORE sense to open up the borders. i.e. When we have a vaccine that works, when there’s no queue to get said vaccine, when the world HAS actually opened up again WITHOUT catastrophic results.
    We should stay ‘borders closed’ for as long as we possibly can.
    I gather or economy is doing better than usual and their are jobs for those that want them, no we don’t have as many travelling-debt/indentured-slaves allowed in the country.
    Pa Aotearoa !

  5. Considering climate change and Covid19, it seems probable that the average citizen has no realistic perspective on how society will ideally need to behave going forward. That isn’t a criticism. What will society be like in two years time? In five years. In ten? If we had some well informed vision there might not need to be so much wasted effort.

  6. The Herald is far worse.

    Stuff will have to process the fact that Maori health inequality means they will pay the price with their lives for open borders first, thus their approach is a form of institutional racism against the indigenous people.

    Then again you probably realise that the Herald (homeland of Collins’ white pride movement) had no shame, they would just import replacement workers/foreign students into their rentals.

  7. Here we go:

    A Crippling 3rd Wave Of COVID Adds To Afghanistan’s Woeshttps://www.npr.org › goatsandsoda › 2021/07/02 › a-cri…

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