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  1. Family First are a frightening organisation. Even climate change measures are a problem for them. Bob is one scary individual

  2. There is not 15% of the electorate who will vote solely on abortion.
    There may be 5% who will vote for a unified Christian Party, though not so far in 9 MMP elections. Maybe if NZF is included.
    However, it would take a Members Bill to get into the system. There won’t be a majority of MP’s in support. There is absolutely no way that National MP’s could be whipped to support such a Bill.
    Five percent parties on the edge don’t get to decide the composition of the government. They have to be in the centre, able to go both ways to have such an influence.
    Is there any conceivable scenario where a Family First dominated party could ever go left, and also demand a change to the abortion laws. If combined with NZF, Winston would never allow them such power.

    1. 1. Whether there would be a majority of MP’s to support (conscience vote issue) depends on the size of the national caucus – 35 of them voted against decriminalisation (there were little more than 50 – this is about 2/3rds).

      2. National has already formed coalitions with the right wing ACT Party – not one in the centre, so why not a Christian Party?

      3. Coalition partners do get wins on the policy platform. One might be supporting minor party bills on conscience vote issues getting a first reading.

      National could see off a Christian party by including more evangelicals in electorates or on the list – this is a reason for vigilance in identifying their positions on conscience issues. And it might even work with a Christian party to engineer a majority of MP’s all the while denying it – as the GOP and their Justices did before the Senate Committee.

      1. How do you convince Nicola Willis and like minded liberal MP’s to go along with such a strategy? There is a zero chance you could convince them to abandon their conscience vote for Family First, a party that at best represents 5% of the population. Such a strategy would tear National apart.
        And as a matter of practical politics there is no need. Since Family First can only go right, they won’t get much in terms of policy wins. There is no imperative to give them much.

        1. How aware would Nicola Willis be of the selection of MP’s for electorates or for the list?

          Would such been aware of the EB funding or the SB/Botany Bay bag money back in the day?

  3. @Reactionary Bratwurst

    You are correct.

    Alas, if only there were a political vehicle that would allow the sensible adults who do not subscribe to either of these extremes representation.

    There are and have been, many real solutions espoused by people far more erudite than myself on this blogsite.
    Solutions we would have a mandate for, thanks to that vehicle?

    Wouldn’t that be great.

    This turns out not to be the case.
    We have moved to the US style of one party politics to all functional intents and purposes, nevermind the conservative and self interested PMC types who actually run the show.

    At one time the bold dream was sweeping systemic change designed to benefit the mass of the people, driven through working class political thought.
    In this time the most incremental, meaningless change is offered in its place.

    Serves us right for believing the high priests of capital.

  4. A wealth tax is a really good idea (first annually on net assets over $M and then as an estate tax). It provides revenues in lieu of untaxed CGT and slows the development of an intergenerational have and have not division in our society.

    And given

    1. co-governance in management of public land (conservation) and water assets is part of honouring National signing us up to indigenous rights at the UN and the bare minimum as per the Treaty

    and

    2. it is an outright lie to call it a threat to democracy.

    For me LGM is an easy choice.

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