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  1. Briefly – I no longer take the Dom-Post, but was annoyed when, under a previous editor, they stopped publishing the late Robert Fisk’s columns. At some stage they made a statement acknowledging their cutting back on reporting international news, but gave no good reason why. Round about the same time they abolished their regular “ religion” column contributors, sometimes rather parochial , but sometimes leading academics like Lloyd Geering ; in the context of “ religion” – and its permutations- now being big global influencers, it was odd.

  2. Well put Malcom.

    Forums like TDB are to be treasured, and indeed anyone that swims against the tide–for it is a strong, pervasive current produced by neo liberal hegemony, and the narratives instilled by global corporates and imperialist powers.

  3. Spot on!

    But the ‘slaves of the empire’ are so well indoctrinated into believing nonsense they actually clamour for the lies and reject the truth out of hand!

    Take 9/11, the pretext for invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, for instance. It only took a modicum of understanding of physics to recognise a demolition job. Even the BBC report declaring the demolition half an hour before it happened was not enough to convince people it was a set-up.

    The propaganda machine was so powerful, and the lies repeated so frequently, the bulk of the populace believed that buildings constructed to withstand aircraft impacts could fall to the ground at free-fall acceleration as a consequence of low-temperature, oxygen-starved fires in the upper storeys. Even the obvious crimping of the roofline of Building Seven and the evidence of massive girders being thrown across the streets and embedded in distant buildings as a consequence of ground-level explosions was not enough to overcome the belief in the official [bullshit] narrative.

    People were (and are) quite happy to believe that titanium alloy aircraft engines could evaporate on impact with grass and that passenger aircraft could fly in the most heavily guarded airspace on the planet for up to an hour-and-a-half unchallenged. Although every aspect of the official narrative is ridiculous. yet it is believed because it is ‘from the government’, and therefore must be true.

    Jacinda Adern spoke these words on ‘Breakfast’ this morning: “The truth is so valuable to us” [the government].

    Yeah right!

    Here’s the truth, Jacinda.

    We live in a society that is in the terminal phase of collapse, which is a consequence of failure to heed the numerous warnings given about the short-term nature of fossil fuel use (commencing 1956 for certain, if not before) and failure to heed the numerous warning about the highly disruptive effects increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide has on climate stability (commencing 1896, if not before).

    We live in a society that is in the terminal phase of collapse as a consequence of bankers, economists and industrialists sabotaging the perfectly valid analysis carried out by Meadows et al, and published in 1972 under the title ‘Limits to Growth’.

    We live in a society that is witnessing the biggest speculative bubbles in history -bubble that are a consequence of the banker’s (more appropriately described as bansksters) Ponzi scheme. And the speculative bubbles are ripe for collapse.

    We live in a society in which ALL the systems are unsustainable and destructive of the future habitability of the Earth. And young people are going to pay an enormous price for the scams, Ponzi schemes and lies promulgated by governments, both of NZ and elsewhere.

    1. “Even the BBC report declaring the demolition half an hour before it happened was not enough to convince people it was a set-up” So you really think that whoever did the “inside job” felt the need to brief the BBC in advance, and nobody at the BBC leaked anything? All of these organizations, have real people with differing opinions in them, and the wars that followed were very very unpopular in the UK. Political parties by definition have people with fairly similar views in them, but even they they all leak like sieves. Just ask yourself what purpose would US insiders have in reveling their crime to a media organisation in a foreign country that has a history of not being particularly sympathetic to many US governments?

      It is not uncommon for governments and media to lie, but it is very difficult for them to keep even mildly embarrassing secrets.

      Just because there were some qualified people who did not think the buildings would collapse like that, it does not necessarily mean they were correct. Their opinions need to be balanced against the more numerous and perhaps better qualified people who determined that the buildings were in fact likely to collapse when struck by large aircraft carrying full tanks of jet fuel.

      “… aircraft could fly in the most heavily guarded airspace on the planet for up to an hour-and-a-half unchallenged” The transponders were turned off and there are a hell of a lot of aircraft flying in that airspace. Cock ups happen all the time, but Americans often find it hard to believe that their own governments systems are fallible, despite all the evidence that they are (e.g live nuclear warheads being dropped out of planes during exercises in the early days of nukes https://www.kpbs.org/news/2018/jun/13/remembering-near-disaster-us-accidentally-drops-nu/)

      And then you have to add in that it would be very difficult to lay sufficient explosives without being noticed. Have you investigated exactly what is required to fell a large building in a controlled demolition?

  4. I worked as a journalist many years ago but I did learn some basic truths about journalism and class divisions.
    Newspapers get their income from the advertising in them.
    Poor people, homeless people, unemployed people, uneducated people, people in prison do not have the money to advertise in newspapers.
    Therefore these people are only useful to newspaper owners as readers that boost circulation figures so that newspapers can charge advertisers more. They do not directly contribute any income.
    Advertisers are usually business people, interest groups like ratepayers and property owners and political parties.
    Newspaper owners know that if they annoy this group of people they will not buy advertising space and there will be a significant loss of income.
    So there is no mystery as to why people like Mike Hoskings and his ilk favour the business community and display contempt for Maori. They follow orders.
    So what is the solution? Well the BBC, the NZBC and Radio New Zealand were intended as media that did not need advertising and therefore would be independent.
    Enough said but people dissatisfied with mainstream media need to realise it is a child of capitalism and will not change as long as capitalism runs it.

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